This might be out of topic, but is there any password manager except Bitwarden that are compatible with the Simple Login API ?
I saw Proton Pass recently introduced sync between SL aliases and Proton aliases. My problem is that Proton Pass alliasses are too risky as you lose them when you cancel your subscription. SL alliases on the other hand are for life.
You can use Proton Pass to generate SimpleLogin aliases which is what I’m doing.
But I don’t want to lose all my allias if I cancel my Proton Pass subscription. Does Proton Pass now allows you to generate allias that go in your SL account?
What you want is unrealistic. If one can premake 1000 email alliases, cancel their subscription, and then continue using those aliases, how is this a sustainable business?
Simple Login has this, and they haven’t gone bankrupt.
I just can’t imagine being locked in for life to a paid service.
If you want greater control of your aliases, then you need to use your own custom domain, which can be accomplished using addy.io. But that’s a big trade-off when it comes to how private your aliases will be. It’s difficult to buy a domain anonymously, and you’ll be the only one using it.
But they’re probably losing a lot of money because there are a lot of people who are abusing this policy.
Custom domain is the solution for scaring to lose alias if/when migrating, getting banned or alias manager shutting down. Its not even rare occurrence, provider come and go. Skiff being the latest popular one.
But you’re trading some anonymity since its only you alone is using the domain, can’t hide amongs many like with shared domain of simplelogin, addy.io, duck.com etc.
Personally I’ve been using my own domain too and since my intention is for total control and total portability, i don’t mind losing abit of anonymity. One outweight the other for me at least. And its cheaper than simplelogin prem or addy prem, just $10/year and using cloudflare email routing for free unlimited incoming. Theres other 2 dns provider i know that have free email routing so if cloudflare shits the bed, I’ll change my domain dns host to them instead.
Yeah you can choose the option to generate SimpleLogin aliases which end for example in @simplelogin.com and are visible on SimpleLogin too.
Why would they lose more money? Users can’t generate new ones and on the free plan you can also generate a few aliases and have exactly the same traffic if you use the aliases for everything in both cases.
Having more than 10 aliases is a paid feature, if you aren’t paying for it but instead are abusing this policy, then SL doesn’t receive the money that they should receive.
Nate from thenewoil wrote a blog on custom domains vs email aliasing services. It might help - Custom Domains 101 — The New Oil
I highly suspect that SL knows about this since they are smart people and that is something very basic.
I’m a paying customer of them myself and I think their policy is that you can’t create new ones but are able to use older ones. I think probably 99% of all people create new accounts on a regular or semi-regular basis. Setting everything up by paying for a month or two is probably not the way most people will use services like SL since they need to create new accounts.
Anyways OP asked if there was a product that allowed that which is a normal question and I think we drifted into a moral debate here.
However if you truly want to know we can ask SL by writing them an e-mail. Their customer support has been very good so far.
I don’t think that SL would consider it abuse if you at some point stop paying for the service and move to the free plan with its limitations. What would be abusing the system is if a user pays for a month, creates thousands of email aliases, and then cancels the subscription, but probably most people are not doing that because SL has stayed in the business this long, and hasn’t changed that policy, even after the Proton acquisition.
Maybe I should explain my current setup.
I used Bitwarden for a long time, but one day changed the password and got locked out. I had setup a backup on Proton Pass. Since then, I only use Proton Pass.
My Proton Pass account is different from my main Proton account. This is not for security, but for Accesibility in CIA. My main Proton account has 2FA, as well as my Ente AUth account. This effectively mean that if I lost my phone, I would be locked out of my accounts.
So, my Proton Pass has a strong password, but it’s easy to remember. When I got acess to PP, I can login to SL, and change the redirects to the mail adress of the proton pass account. This would then allow me to connect to Ente Auth.
I guess I could from now on use Proton Pass on my main account.
I will ask them two questions:
When you say that Proton Unlimited give you access to SL Premium, does this mean a normal SL premium subscription, which notably guarantees that you’ll own any allias you create, and will not lose it when you cancel your subscription.
Do Alliases created inside Proton PAss with the somplelogin.com domain are covered by the SL guarantees, or is it just part of the Proton Pass Plus deal?
This is a major hole in your setup.
Proton Unlimited gives you a premium SL membership.
If you create a linked account and you’re subscribed to a Proton Unlimited, Proton for Business, Proton Family, or Proton Visionary (legacy) plan, you’ll receive SimpleLogin Premium for free.
This is an odd one and I am not 100% sure of my answer but my understanding is if you create your aliases via SL those aliases are permanent (ie even if you lose your SL premium membership, the ones you already created will stay there).
If you create the aliases via Proton (ie through pass) I think you are limited in what is kept per your previous thread