SIP service provider recommendations?

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I’m trying to get at least 3 U.S. VoIP/SIP phone numbers for residential use only on Android for under $60 USD/year total. As for my threat model, I’m trying to lessen my traceability from online randoms and data miners.

My requirements:

  • Does not require KYC/ID verification
  • USA phone number
  • Up to $1.25 USD/month per phone number
  • Dual functionality
  • Voice and SMS enabled
  • Two-way SMS and voice
  • National mobile number
  • Won’t block me if I’m using a VPN to connect

Preferences:

  • Support receiving SMS from short codes
  • Call encryption
  • Call conferencing
  • Call recording
  • Accepts Monero, other crypto, Privacy.com virtual debit cards, or at least PayPal as payment
  • Supported by Acrobits Groundwire
  • Will only be making domestic outbound calls
  • Doesn’t matter whether it can receive international calls

Disqualified services:

  • MySudo doesn’t allow purchases on GrapheneOS (even with sandboxed Play Services installed).
  • Hushed is expensive and SMS/call notifications aren’t very reliable on GrapheneOS (sandboxed Play Services is installed on the same user profile).
  • VoIP.ms offers excellent pricing but requires KYC/identification.

Thanks for any help!

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There is nothing better than jmp.chat:

Additional lines added to your account bill out of your same account balance, at $2.45 USD / month or $3.45 CAD / month per additional line.

So that’s roughly $10. If you can’t afford that, not sure what other options you look for.

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I think hustlers.ly is your solution tho they prices is a bit high.

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Not to hi-jack the thread but I’m looking for something similar. I have a home phone (not a mobile phone) that gets phone service (voip) through the local cable provider. Is it possible to replace the cable provided phone service with jmp.chat?

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I just bought a bunch of Unifi Talk phones for my house that I’m going to use with probably Voip.ms or Twilio. Maybe I’ll try setting up JMP.chat, but it’s a lot more expensive.

You can definitely replace your home phone plan with JMP.chat (or any SIP provider really), but you might need to replace your phones with VoIP phones, or get an Analog Telephone Adapter. I went with Unifi which sells both options, although they’re pretty expensive. You could get an ATA from Grandstream for about $50 to convert your existing phone: Amazon.com : analog telephone adapter

Unless you already have a VoIP phone? I guess it depends on what hardware your current cable provider gave you. If you can configure your current phone with custom SIP credentials then you’re all set to use JMP.chat:

For advanced use cases, or others who might have reason to need it, JMP does allow users to create a SIP account in your account settings and then login using a SIP client.

Outbound phone calls with SIP are supported. Inbound calls can optionally be routed to the SIP account as well. Sending or receiving messages (i.e. SMS and MMS) using SIP is not supported at this time.

Inbound calls can also be forwarded to any SIP URI.

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Are you actually in the US? I’ve signed up for VoIP.ms and haven’t encountered KYC myself so far, but maybe they just haven’t asked yet. Where did you see this was required?

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They actually do require it in my experience too and they do not take the security of your documents so seriously, see also: VoIP.ms sends ID documents over plaintext email (RE: Michael Bazzell Leaving Twilio for VoIP.ms) | ph00lt0

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Well I guess it is certainly a YMMV situation, but I’ve now registered and set up a few DIDs with voip.ms without any issue.

I did give them my home address for e-911 purposes since this is for a home landline others will also use, so maybe that helped behind the scenes, but certainly no verification took place.

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Thanks for the reply. I’m diving into this further to see what would be best for me. The info you provided is most helpful. Thanks again!

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Well that might have worked for you, for now. But i do wonder if you have an exit strategy if they suddenly come around and demand it anyway?

For me they asked it straight after sign up at the time.

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Here in the US full number porting is a legal obligation.

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Also if they have an active request for ID?

I mean same here but i wonder hoe gold their cooperation will be and at that point you are quite affected by it until it is ported.

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What problem did you encounter on GrapheneOS?

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if you need a true non-virtual number, jmp.chat doesn’t advertise it but they do offer them if you message support and ask for a Premium+ or +P route.

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