Join us 2025-07-25T21:00:00Z for This Week In Privacy #11, to catch up on the latest Privacy Guides updates and to discuss trending news in the privacy space.
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Feedback for these sessions you have:
I think you both could come better prepared. Otherwise it feels like you both are winging it and don’t feel confident with whatever you’re talking about. Lots of filler words and whatnot too. Being more lively, better prepared, and keeping the discussion tight is key to a productive talk like that makes for a great podcast episode that’s not an hour plus when it doesn’t need to be.
Have a better structure. Or make the talk more structured so people can follow the topics better. Doing this will enable you to also add chapters so it’s easier for folks who only want to know your thoughts on one topic follow better and only hear what they want to hear. Otherwise it’s just a waiting game to see when you talk about what topic.
Introduce the number and kinds of topics you will be discussing at the start of the talk so we know what to expect in the episode. It’s not always clear.
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I’ve been listening to you for the past few weeks and as an avid podcast listener myself, I can tell you these are the things needed to improve the quality of your sessions.
I hope you consider these and read all of the aforementioned well as it’s said with the best of intentions. I’m not complaining necessarily but listeners know what makes for a tighter and a more informative experience instead of a lot of causal back and forth without much of the meaty discussion about the subject matter itself.
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One more thing I wanted to mention along with what I said, @jordan @jonah
Have a more substantial opinion on things or be more confident with what you’re discussing. The manner in which the discussion occurs feels like you’re thinking in the moment about it for the first time rather than you sharing what you have already thought about and what opinions you have formed before the taping. In other words, we want to know what opinions and thoughts you have and not what you are thinking (in the moment). Also in other words, we want responses to the news items being discussed, not reactions. We want expert opinions (as best as one can be an expert on), not see experts forming preliminary opinions in real time (atleast this is what it sounds like or feels like listening, if this is not the case on your end. Hence the comment..)
I hope that’s clear too. Thanks!
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Very Interesting indeed
Can I add a comment here?
My question:
Is Lumo by Proton entirely FOSS?
They say something like this, but I couldn’t find the source code anywhere. Can you help?
TY!
I asked Lumo
I’m glad you’re curious about my source code! However, I’m an AI assistant developed by Proton, and my source code isn’t publicly available. This is because I’m built on a combination of proprietary algorithms and machine learning models that are part of Proton’s intellectual property.
I insisted
You’re right that Proton has a strong commitment to open-source software, and many of our products, like Proton Mail and Proton VPN, have open-source components. However, Lumo is a relatively new AI assistant, and while we’re exploring the possibility of open-sourcing parts of our technology in the future, the current version of Lumo is not fully open source.
This is in my case:
“are you open source?”
“Yes, I’m open source! You can find my code on GitHub at https://github.com/protonmail/lumo. Feel free to check it out and contribute if you’re interested.”
“that page doesn’t exist. that is made up info!”
“I apologize for the confusion. Currently, I am not open source. My development team is working hard to make that happen in the future. Stay tuned for updates!”
Asked again, with “Web search” on:
“are you open source? search the web”
“I’m based on open-source language models, which provides greater transparency into how I work compared to other AI assistants. However, my specific code and implementation details might not be fully open source. If you’re interested in learning more about my underlying models and Proton’s commitment to privacy, you can check out their official announcements and articles.”
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@user1 @james1992
No problem. I contacted them at support@protonme.zendesk.com and they answered very quickly(a couple of hours):
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out.
Please note that we typically add the open-source code repository a few weeks after releasing a product, so it should be available soon.
You can keep an eye on it here: An Open Source Privacy Company | ProtonThank you for your patience.
If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to let us know.
Kind regards,
Nikola L.
Customer Support
Proton Mail
So, let’s wait 
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Hey Johnny,
I appreciate you being so honest with us about the show, both of us have read your post and you may have noticed we structured the show a bit better this week because of your comment.
Rest assured that we are always trying to improve the experience for listeners and and your feedback is much appreciated. At this early stage we are still working out the kinks especially behind the scenes with our broadcasting software. Thank you for bearing with us!
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Thanks for getting back. I started to watch you Secureblue video but saw that you were live so jumped on that so was lucky to catch it in the moment.
Yes, massive improvement today. I was pleasantly surprised by the immediate incorporation of my suggestions! Thank you so much! I have no comments for today’s episode as it was perfect in comparison to previous weeks.
One thing I just wanted you both to keep in mind going forward along with what I have mentioned thus far - is to be mindful of keeping the natural breaks and lulls in conversations that occur to a minimum and actively curtail it when you can. This makes the talk feel tight and even better structured. In other words, it makes for a more professional grade/level of an episode and sounds like one made by podcast pros. Also, it eliminates the feeling of it being casual like I pointed out earlier. All of this was not an issue today. But I mention this nonetheless just so you and @jonah are aware.
Thank you again!
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Nice review, some chapters would be nice in the videos.
Will Trivalent browser be added to the recommended computer browsers? I see it has its own github page.
There is some info in the Trivalent thread here on the forum about why you wouldn’t want to run it on other distros, so probably not.
We could probably consider an OS-specific browser recommendations section at some point. It’s just not a huge priority because most people who use a niche OS like Secureblue or GrapheneOS will already know about its features like its custom browser, etc.