Many people use mapping services on a daily basis, and mapping apps inherently have access to very sensitive location data.
Organic Maps is open source, well-maintained, and privacy-focused, with the ability to download maps for offline use. It’s simple and easy to use, and allows you to easily contribute to OpenStreetMap in-app, which is where Organic Maps gets its map data from. It’s available on iOS and Android.
That’s true- there are no traffic updates. I supplement with Magic Earth in the fairly rare cases when I truly need traffic information. Magic Earth isn’t open source, though, and Organic Maps is the most usable mapping service I’ve found that seems to fit the standards set by Privacy Guides.
From a privacy standpoint, I see very little (if any) reason to use Apple Maps over Google Maps. Both companies collect massive amounts of user data, regardless of the user’s wishes and without informed consent. Organic Maps, by contrast, is fundamentally different. It’s community-built, open source, and built with privacy as a priority.
Apple is already collecting information regardless. Might as well use it.
IIRC, last time Michael Bazzell requested his own personal info on Apple Maps, it does not appear to be collecting his own usage for it.
Like I said, if somehow you are on iOS and is somehow not using any Google services, it is a good enough alternative. It is a first party app, might as well enjoy the nicer iOS features and whatever integration it offers.
I understand this argument. If you’re already on iOS, you’re already being tracked by Apple, so you might as well use Apple’s apps. I completely agree with you on that.
However, Privacy Guides doesn’t recommend iOS because you can’t get around the fact that it’s not private.
Adding Apple Maps as a recommendation for iOS users is like adding Google Maps as a recommendation for Stock Android. Like yes, at that point you’re already being heavily tracked by these companies so you might as well just use the stock apps- they have all your info anyway, right?
But then what you’re getting isn’t privacy, it’s just sharing all your sensitive info with a single company rather than 2+ companies. If people actually want privacy- real privacy, not corporate lies- the fact is they need to work to get out of these ecosystems. I see the recommendations section as a place for offerings that you can really trust.
I would be in favor of a section in the guide that describes this line of thinking. It’s true that sharing your info with one company is better than sharing with 2+ companies. It’s worth telling people that as a general rule, in the guide section. Because if you’re already on iOS, why not use Apple Maps? And if you’re on Stock Android, why not use Google Maps? But in my mind the recommendations section is for software that actually protects privacy.
Admittedly I haven’t tried OSMand in over a year, but last time I used it, it felt extremely bloated and not very focused. There was tons of information I didn’t need, and navigation felt very unpolished, unintuitive, and clunky.
By comparison, Organic Maps feels very simple and clean, with a focus on navigation, which is what I think most people look for in a maps app.
I like Magic Earth. Address search is much better than Organic Maps. It has traffic and construction info. But it’s not open source, so I don’t think it’ll gain much traction here.
How is this similar? Apple Maps provides more privacy than gmaps with almost no compromises.
What sensitive information? You can use Apple Maps without an Apple ID.
But in my mind the recommendations section is for software that actually protects privacy.
Apple Maps include many features to protect your privacy (most of them are on my default). It’s important to note that privacy and security are a careful seesaw with usability/functionality. Everyone have different needs and concerns.