Bitwarden scrubs ‘Always free’ and ‘Inclusion’ values from its website as longtime execs step down

https://www.fastcompany.com/91542655/bitwarden-scrubs-always-free-and-inclusion-values-from-its-website-as-longtime-execs-step-down

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Shame, been a happy bitwarden user for many years, but VC money always finds a way to make things worse. Might be time to give proton another chance after all, I stopped using most of their product so at least it won’t feel like lock-in to only get proton pass.

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We can’t have nice things :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Does anyone know if you can generate duckduckgo alias emails from the Proton Pass like you can with Bitwarden? DDG aliases are great except for generating them via the official apps which are terrible, but Bitwarden solved that.

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Yes I know. No, you can’t. For obvious reasons.

You can use Qwacky add on made by @Omar

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This is something we should all appreciate more - what Proton did to their structure and the change they made a few years ago.

To legally ensure the company cannot enshittify or ever slip into shareholder capitalism instead of continuing on stakeholder capitalism is one of the features we should be looking at more.

They have several faults (from a privacy enthusiast and product follower POV) but what they get right, they really get right and keeps me loving them.

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It’s still free, they just stopped promising that it will be free forever.

uhmm well not sure it changed since Fastcompany looked, but right under the pricing section on the website:

Technically, Proton Pass is also free to use. But we know it has limitations with free. So will Bitwarden in the future I imagine.

I personally was a paid user of bitwarden (I only recently renewed too so took a loss by deleting my account), I do not want the enshittification that has been slowly ramping up anywhere near my passwords, no matter how they whitewash it.

Their UI has been outdated for years and while they made very minor improvements, they have also raised prices without announcing it in any obvious places, and now this nonsense. Very rarely a good sign when people get replaced by private equity demons that are known for being able to squeeze money out of literally anything.

Luckily I have been paying for SimpleLogin which comes with proton pass, so at least I get that for “free”.

it stil says “Always Free”. The article is either incorrect or Bitwarden updated it after the publication I am unable to tell.

The pricing page removed the free plan entirely, don’t think the article mentions the account page.

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Okay… :confused:

My comment still stands.

Always free. Sure. To what extent? That’s always subject to change.

So actually I did go through the entire history on archive.org and it changed a couple times in design. But yeah at no point it was removed. So it seems this is a bad journalism piece with apparently lacking fact checking.

i mean it is not like I disagree there.

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Don’t think I’d say it’s not true. Their “start free” homepage certainly implies it’s not always free. It signals some shift in how they see themselves (not consumer focused), they don’t even default to personal plan pricing anymore.

current home page for me:

if anything they are experimenting with design to shift focus to paid accounts. Which is something different than not offering it.

Fast Company asked Bitwarden if it would commit to not removing any features from its free plan in the future. Bitwarden’s Chief Customer Officer, Gary Orenstein, says via email that the company “remains committed to offering a robust free plan that delivers meaningful value for individuals.”

It simply does not inspire confidence to see the changes combined with this statement. Whether or not bitwarden shifts to the profit-only mindset that is in the process of ruining the global economy is a question to be answered while waiting, but I am not wasting time on bitwarden anymore.

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Nobody ever said they aren’t offering it. Did you read the article beyond the headline? I also have no idea where you are seeing this, unless they are A/B testing, since it is not on the homepage.


Contrast this with a year and a half ago where they were fairly clear even the free and cheaper premium plans were applicable even to businesses:

https://archive.is/LHL2P