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This change at Techlore was sad not expected. It’s hard enough to manage this one at privacy guides with a dedicated team, I can’t imagine how a two person team over were doing this for the past few months or so.
Agreed especially since they are very tool specific. I’m sure there are others, but we are the only ones that are somewhat tailored to those starting their privacy journey.
Rest assured that despite agreeing with Rasta on PG’s tiny leans towards the hardcore, we can still help with any Privacy and Security or open to posts or projects relevant (enough) just expect recommendations and advices to not be like Techlore’s
As in: expect them to be a bit more tech-savvy and higher level?
Or the opposite?
I haven’t watched a lot of his livestreams to be able to say which one you mean.
Every month that goes by is an additional month he has to pay for hosting. If I remember correctly he was hosting directly with Discourse after taking the forum off its own server. I would guess it’s related to cost and to just be able to move on from it.
The info at some point will go stale. Maybe not all, but enough to have it become half truths and akin to misinformation with time. Is it really worth it?
I mean clearly Techlore doesn’t think so, which is perfectly fine. I’m just pointing out that Henry isn’t some helpless guy who has to do anything. He can do whatever he wants here, and if he doesn’t think it’s a worthwhile allocation of resources then that’s just his choice. The community doesn’t have to defend his choices as the only option, is all, much less position it as cost related. He is well-resourced and has an extensive network of technical people he could ask for help accomplishing any goal if that were his desire.
Techlore was way more gentle when it comes to privacy and security to the point we would feel a-ok pointing out recommendations like iodeOS or Calyx and yes Graphene can be involved too. And even point out Filen or Mega for E2EE cloud storage no problem etc.
Meanwhile PG, it’s basically, GrapheneOS, take it or leave it, oh you can’t buy a pixel and flash GrapheneOS? Well you could try LineageOS or debloating the device or SOL.
Techlore: oh yeah Filen and/or MEGA is fine if you want the E2EE in your storage files
PG: FILEN? MEGA?! DISGUSTING NO, USE PROTON DRIVE OR TRESORIT (or whatever else is recommended here)
This now should give you the idea of the difference
AllThingsSecured: for the lowest of threat models. I take issues with their thinking on several things.
Techlore: A good balance with what they recommend and why. I have no issues when the approach is balanced and that stems from sound enough logic.
Privacy Guides: The absolute best advice and info that one ought to know and learn and likely use even if your threat model isn’t so high. Might as well begin understanding more about the subject matter sooner than later because we’ll all inevitably want to use the best because using the second best may as well be as bad as using any other average service.
yeah i honestly dont have objection with it too, im just pointing it as a difference in like level of advice we used to get and what former techlore forum users are about to get
My personal philosophy is that it is kinder (and easier in the long-term) to tell ‘noobs’ how to do things correctly the first time they try something, and to just take it as slowly as they need, rather than try to get them involved as much as possible with “easier” solutions and provide more advanced education later.
This is not how everyone learns though, so I expect some people will continue to find other places to learn about privacy… before eventually ending up back at PG
Though I don’t think anyone considering to learn about privacy ought to be scared away from PG just because it is likely more advanced of a discussion related to privacy tech and policy.
I wasn’t when I was still active on Techlore forum and I found my way here to ask the right questions and learn accordingly. Of course it helps if you’re already a little tech savvy. I think it will come down to how each person asks and requests to learn about what they want to and keep engaging to learn more.
This brings me to a new idea: whenever a new user joins the forum, they ought to choose where they are in their privacy journey or how much they already know about the subject matter often discussed in advanced manner here. A tag or a label next to their name should indicate something to show that this person is brand new and we ought to take it easy and always ELI5 when answering and addressing their questions/concerns. What do you think? It would make PG more approachable.
oo I have seen this system before yeah, but we should make it an automatic one intergrated into discourse (see vrchat doc’s on trust and safety as an example below)
I dont remember where exactly unfortunately but steam for example actually has a badge telling how many years a users was on steam Steam Community :: GorujoCY my profile for example, I made it show my years of service, and man sure feels like im old, 8 years with almost 9
But aside from steam if I can remember where I’ve seen a similar system ill let you know, I think its from video games though
screenshot for those who dont wanna click on steam links
just remembered, a similar system actually comes from vrchat
Enjoy a system PG can take inspiration!
in the case of PG instead of Visitor to Trusted User basically what @anon57862721 suggested, we change the ranking to for example:
people who follow each other get a client-side label saying something like “Mutuals” replacing VRChat’s “Friend” ranking system instead of showing anything below (or we can keep it as “Friend”)
(*)(normally a professional rank may go up but I dont think we should proclaim users and staff as professionals so we can just not add it)
↑Veteran
↑Rookie
↑Newbie
↑Just getting started
all of this is not something to be chosen by the user but rather like vrchat, it is automated and ranked based on similar factors to the social vr game (which in this case is activity in PG with the ability of manual override by the staff and based on staff’s assessment of the user)
