On a stock android, for example a Samsung, Sony, Motorola etc, the system updates that you can push via the settings - are Google Play Services and the Play Store necessary for these?
And all the apps that are preinstalled (I am talking about system apps like com.android.webview or com.android.carrierconfig) also updated only with the Play Services and Play Store enabled?
For all updates on these example packages you provided you just need the play store for the most part yes and at this point in turn the play services but play store as bare minimum
I am asking because I would like to disable Play Services and Play Store but obviously still need the updates. What would you recommend? Disabling them and then every few days turning them on for updates?
If your device is not supported by the OEM anymore you might follow the KISS android guide in the wiki.
Thanks, but that is not what I am talking about. The phone still receives updates for a few years. But I still would like to disable the Play Services and Store, but I obviously need the updates as well as updates for a couple of apps that were installed through the store (and there are no FOSS alternatives).
I’m not sure what you’re trying to achieve here.
If your device is supported then you could break android functionality by disabling google play services and even if not it will be enabled again with the next system update from the oem.
Also some apps could not work without play services.
Periodically enabling and disabling to update components and apps doesn’t make sense either, just leave it enable if you need it.
If you want to update apps without using the play store to avoid a google account just use aurora store.
Android functionality does not break with it disabling Google play services!
You are absolutely Correct that it can make apps relying on it break or stop and of course that would likely include the play system update. And aurora recommendation all good
@user1 no, the phone can work even with the Play Services disabled. Even apps that were installed through the Play Store can work w/o the Service enabled. But my issue are as mentioned the updates that I need and want.
Aurora is not an option, I do not want to use it for banking apps for example.
im confused, aurora store is just a way to use the play store if without play services or anonymous account, you can download and update your banking app just fine.
You will need play services doe likely for the banking app and some other services like play system update. And that’s what your banking app relies on (well for most of them), the play services, not the store
As you can read on these previous topics :
there is no clear-cut opinion, yet, it seems it’s better to follow the KISS android guide of @user1
@GorujoCY I do not want to use Aurora for such sensitive apps, also, the bank does not allow you to install their app through any other way than the Play or App Store.
When using two different users on a phone, and one has Play Services enabled, the other one not, are system updates and system app updates by each user themselves, or are they applied through all users?
all the more confusing
Aurora is a frontend of Google Play Store not an alternative, your banking app can be installed through there just fine, they are not limiting you there.
Again, the banking app can only be downloaded directly from the Play Store, no Aurora.
But does anyone know the answer to my question regarding updates across users?
updates do follow across users
and I repeat too, aurora store is google play store just with the ability of anonymous account and/or without play services.
Not sure I need to call @user1 on this to clarify but I hope not, it seems you’ve made your decision but at that
This is wrong, since apps can and do enforce installation only from the play store. Aurora does not work in those cases, here is the API:
If that’s the case OP should probably say so because they could very well be misunderstanding that Aurora != Play Store when it is more like == with an asterisk
And honestly No app is utilizing it in my experience, the only thing I can think of close is paid apps like Minecraft but those utilized the play store for license verification not checking whenever the app is installed on Play Store or not