Well, if you are not abiding by their terms of service, then they can. But it’s unwise to create multiple Apple or Google accounts anyway especially with aliases because these companies are very good at curtailing such behavior and would indeed categorize as abuse no matter. You can use other aliasing services if you really want to though.
There’s also @lanedirt’s AliasVault, FYI. Check it out, it’s actively being developed and works well for what it is in beta right now.
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If you want to go the “temporary” disposable route (not recommended)
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They don’t even tell me what the number is. I created 3 accounts each and got the warning. Isn’t that the whole point of these alias services? If not, what’s a better service for creating Apple and Google accounts? They can’t assume I’m up to no good just because I want to have multiple Apple accounts.
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Creating multiple accounts is a red flag indeed whether you’re up to no good or not. They would be in the right here if they’re abiding by their terms of service policy.
Also, no - the point of aliases is to have different aliases for different accounts and not multiple for the same type of account.
But you may also be doing something else to trigger these many issues at this level. I don’t know what that is so I’ll stop commenting on this.
Good luck to you.
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If I shouldn’t be using alias for this, then which service is recommended? Should I use an actual email say from Proton instead of an alias? What should one do if they want multiple Apple/Google accounts?
No, the email was clear in what I did that got the warning. It wasn’t a generic email.
Yep sl and addy have strict and sensitive detection to prevent abuse so incoming reg mail from the same provider back to back will trigger their abuse mail warning you not to do that.
Ddg duck.com and another one, erine.eu doesn’t have strict tos forbidding multiple accounts creation on the same service. They still do have tos forbidding general abuse though so creating something like 100 accounts per day on the same provider like proper spammer would still get you in trouble, still got to use common sense there.
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Bro, I only did 3 per provider.
Most people do not know that Proton (Proton Pass & Simple Login), only allow ONE alias per third party website. It is against their ToS to create more than one alias for the same website.
It’s a terrible rule that I’ve talked about here, here, and here.
It is essential for privacy to be able to have multiple accounts with the same website to compartmentalize your life. But Proton is against it, and on top of that they pretend they are not in their marketing.
That’s why it’s better to go with Addy.io who allow you to create multiple aliases for the same website.
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I had no idea! Does that ever reset? Say I disable the alias and then delete it. Can I create a new one afterwards or it’s once per life of the account? I can’t afford to make a mistake because I don’t want my Proton account shut down. I got emails and everything.
Interesting you got a warning after using 3 alias per site. Just like me. Is the next warning an account shut down?
Instead of wondering and continueing to worry, why do you want to risk continue doing what you’re doing? Try addy.io and other options mentioned and see what works.
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I stopped after the warning. Obviously I’ll have to use another service because I don’t want to lose my Proton account. This is now one of my most important accounts and I’m paying for it. They don’t care though. They sure sound like they’ll shut down my account if they have to.
Sadly, that IS the case.
Anonymous registration for Tuta was never possible in the first place. Not only do they block Tor exit nodes, but also VPNs and many residential IPs(including mine). Just to make it clear, I have never created any Tuta accounts before using my fixed residential IP
Although Proton, in some cases, do allow Tor/VPN IP addresses for registration, signing up on their onion address is not possible. Only their clearnet address is open for registration, which often requires SMS or email verification.
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There are ways to bypass this hurdle though. Using other “anonymously” made email addresses can be used to get your Tuta or Proton account verified.
But its been a year or so since I created a new account with them so not sure if anything has changed.
I believe that is not a good idea.
IP addresses are one of, if not the most, critical information used for identifying an individual. And using a secondary burner email (like smailpro, tempmail, etc) does not solve the problem. Tuta completely blocks account registration based on the IP address, so whether or not you’re willing to give your phone number, gmail account, or anything else, you still wouldn’t be able to sign up.
Proton is a little more generous on this. They allow registration when verified with emails or SMS. But that poses another problem; How do you make an “other anonymously made email”? And it is clear that the more data you give, the more you are likely to be unique and identified.
Any sign up procedures other than those made through the tor network (preferrably, onion address) without requiring any SMS/email verifications, should not be considered anonymous
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I never claimed this is the only way to make other email accounts privately. You can always sign up with other privacy forward email service providers.
And changing your IP or using obfuscation in Mullvad or IVPN could also help between system reboots.
My comment about being able to still bypass stands.
Did you not read the Tuta signup message asking you to confirm you don’t have another account?
If you’re doing this all at the same time from the same IP than it’s very obvious to them you’re violating their TOS. Tuta has also dinged me for starting an account and using it to register for a new site immediately, so Tuta seems to know more about what you do than they like to say.
Inferring something is not exactly “knowing” it with certainty. They try to fight spam and other things with probability, not with invading privacy as you’re implying or with any certainty.
You have worded your comment to reflect @Tuta_Official negatively which is unwarranted.
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Of course, but the evidence of even an automated internal system that needs me to wait a few days before I use their service for a specific thing is clear when they locked the account and told me that was why. When their own website says:
Tuta automatically encrypts all your data end-to-end, even email headers and metadata such as subject lines so that your personal and business emails stay private.
Then when a user is told “hey, what you’re doing looks like spammer behavior,” and I’m not a bot or a spammer, then it’s a bit creepy. I’m happy to hear @Tuta_official explain the technical side of how they can manage a tough balance.
I don’t blame them at all for doing that at all - I would do the same. I meant only that for OP’s purpose, they should leave poor Tuta alone.
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