If you are in the US, it would be great if the American government could oppose it. You probably could raise free speech concerns. The US gov seems to have a lot of sway over the Commission lately
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Not in the US anymore either. I’m just sitting here feeling helpless and other countries are not doing anything either. It’s probably what they would like anyway.
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There’s been pushback against this again and again, and yet this presidency is hellbent on getting it approved… Completely disregarding any concerns both members of the parliament and citizens of EU countries have.
We won’t stop fighting, but it’s very sad that we have to win every time while they only need to win once.
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US government or US corporations always have a lot of influence over Commission or most of other countries.
But usually they cannot interfere. For example, Europe don’t interfere what laws Americans make for themselves.
Who exactly American government is? Looking from abroad, it seems it is oligarchs + Trump team + government in the shadows including NSA and CIA.
And politicians in US parliaments have a say, but power is way more centralized.
Why these surveillance and power interests in US are more interested in privacy than politicians in Europe?
I’m quite confused as of this one tho
From the detailed numbers, it looks like more than the majority is against the movement. Also, some countries have far more opposed representatives yet the country is still marked as “supports”? I guess each voice doesn’t have the same weight regarding the final decision making? 
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How this decision is made is highly complex in each country. By the end of the day, citizens have to bug politicians, and politicians have to bug each other, to reach some sort of consensus in the air, so there would be enough of movement for good decisions on this to happen. But politicians don’t seem to care about privacy by themselves, or they outright support mass surveillance.
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Yeah well US is interfering anyway so better be for good
Yeah basically his administration.
They don’t care about Privacy, but if you can frame it in a Free Speech manner, they might
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Good news first:
ChatControl will stay voluntary, as this mention was added 
Bad news:
Age Verification will be mandated in app stores to download apps that can be misused for solicitation, and messenger apps will need to age -verify as well.
Patric Breyer and FightChatControl both expect the revised proposal to be adopted, starting a process known as tge trilogue, negociation between the parliament, the Council and the Commission.
Conclusion: tommorow is the time to
pick up the phone again and contact your MEPs on the danger of age verification.
Sources: Patrick Breyer: "🇪🇺✅ SUCCESS: We've prevented mandatory #ChatContr…" - digitalcourage.social
Chat Control: The EU’s CSAM scanner proposal – Patrick Breyer
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
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It needs some strong arguments to provide to MEPs, otherwise it will be like saying “Nooooo!” to politicians, which happens all the time. Including with other very good laws. People want different things depending on their industry.
Chat control had a very strong argument - its danger to democracy, and not compatible with democracy. But with age verification, it is less clear, and seems to be quite a settled question, including by other existing laws. Age verification seems bad to me, but how to reverse very strong trend.
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This person Age Verification for Humans is highly knowledgeable on the subject, and tirelessly was working against this trend of age verification in detail for many years with better proposals/alternatives for EU.
The things I am not sure of and afraid of:
1. will this age verification be private? EU propaganda says its private, but I don’t yet understand on the technical level - is it really? https://ageverification.dev/ If nobody clearly is sounding the alarms, it could mean EU age verification is private?
Another question:
2. what will happen with linux mobile operating systems? EU age verification apps will be issued by EU countries. Who will issue the app for linux alternatives?
Its off-topic. So if you have answers, don’t answer in this thread, but here: Age Verification Wants Your Face, and Your Privacy
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I just looked at their roadmap and zero-knowledge proofs is scheduled for next month. So we should wait to see how well it works, and whether it is that private. Also, it requires a phone. So anyone who doesn’t want a phone is screwed with this.
Also don’t forget that the proposal allows unfethered scanning of your content by services provider indefinitely. Previously this was allowed but with a limit on time. So it’s still going to hurt a lot of innocent people. Even more than before because this law encourages companies to take actions.
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