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I think that you and @Anon47486929 are simply focused on and referring to different (somewhat conflicting) statements made by Windscribe. I believe this comment (made in reference to the 2022 audit) is what @Anon47486929 is referring to:

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I think a summary that would be agreeable to all would be be:

  1. There was a 2022 audit, but that audit was done on an earlier stack that didn’t make it to production.

  2. There is a 2024 audit, that was done on the stack that is being rolled out in production currently, but that rollout is not yet complete, so some of the current infrastructure remains un-audited.

  3. Once the ‘freshscribe’ rollout is complete, the 2024 audit will be relevant and apply to the stack being used in production.

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You nicely corrected my post that tried to summarize.

That’s wrong. Like you said, it did not make it to production at all. They modified the new infrastructure they were building and it’s this one (the one that was audited by PacketLabs) that was running in production for “a selected group of beta testers”.

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This may be the first time in the history of the internet that not one, not two, not three but four of us separately acknowledged being wrong about something we said or thought in a single thread. :tada: :champagne: it’s quite refreshing.

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frame this moment ya’ll

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I don’t think Windscribe is worth recommending at the moment. The company thinks they can get away with anything with their oh-so-funny attitude.

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I’ll add this link to the relevant topic about their bad-faith marketing.
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/windscribes-new-marketing-strategy/22526

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What is the consensus on Windscdibe in the end?

Are those the reasons that it isn’t recommended?

. There is already 3 VPN providers recommended
. It is a VPN provider based in Canada not in Europe
. It has questionable Marketing strategies

Did I missed something? I wonder if we are not being too limiting here.

This may be an option for those that need a VPN but are questioning if worth paying double what they pay to NordVPN.

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I think at this point people are waiting for the rollout of freshscribe architecture to re-evaluate. From what I can tell it still has not been released to all customers yet.

maybe someone here can update if there is info about that I can’t find.

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I have a simple advice.

If you want privacy and reliability ⇢ Go with Mullvad.

If you want a fun toy which can be used to bypass geo location restrictions and can do other “fun” stuff that VPNs do then ⇢ Go with NordVPN.

Every other VPN service is ‘here and there’. Nothing really special.

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Why Nord of all things?

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I was just suggesting two opposite services. As I said, if you need “a privacy tool” and if you need “a toy”. I would never use Nord unless I just wanna stream some netflix, torrenting or gaming.

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What makes Mullvad the best choice for privacy?

As for reliability, Mullvad doesn’t have a lot of servers, IPs get blocked pretty frequently by some sites, and the speeds weren’t the best either when I tried it. Proton completely blows Mullvad out of the water on this one.

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Proton has special servers for streaming, supports port forwarding for torrenting and also allows for moderate NAT to improve the online gaming experience.

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I feel like Mullvad might be one of the most innovative VPN provider when it comes to privacy, with features like DAITA, Quantum-resistant tunnels and RAM-only servers. They also accept payments with Monero unlike Proton. On the other hand, Proton seems to focus mostly on growing their server network and improving their streaming support. I haven’t heard any innovative privacy features coming from them in recent years.

But why would Mullvad, a smaller VPN provider, have as many servers as the bigger names? I really don’t think that it makes a lot of sense to compare VPN services this way because Proton has obviously a lot more users, so naturally they also need more servers. Furthermore, Proton has max 10 Gbps servers, while Mullvad has also many that are 20 or even 40 Gbps, so another reason why the number of servers don’t tell you the whole story.

Regarding the IP blocking, this is really an issue with all VPN providers, but I have recently noticed that this greatly varies regarding the server provider you are connecting, so I would try how each of these perfom. Also, my experiece regarding the blocking has actually been the opposite, where Proton was blocked a lot more, so I think that for this point the results can greatly wary between people.

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I have a bias against proton and tend to stay away from their services. That’s the reason I never recommend them.

Again as I said, it’s my own opinion. Mullvad and IVPN are the most transparent in my POV. IVPN has really bad speeds for me that’s why I don’t recommend them. Mullvad has not failed me because of IP blocks. Maybe my use case is different from yours. Also for server numbers, as I said before, If you want a shiny toy then go with Nord VPN.

Also, this thread is for windscribe. For me, I don’t like their marketing strategies. They are not “professional”. Also the whole Ukraine servers debacle at their end is another reason. Once bitten, twice shy.

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I agree that Proton servers are generally less likely to be blocked if you frequent the kind of websites that block VPN IPs. In my experience though speeds not to mention ping is leagues better with Mullvad than ProtonVPN.