What people are using to replace YT instead of using frontends? Odysee or Rumble or Peertube?
I’ve been mainly using Nebula. Most of the channels I followed aren’t there, but there are plenty of other good ones I didn’t know about. Some that I really cared to continue watching that aren’t on Nebula, are either on Patreon or have a mailing list. So I subscribed to their mailing lists and/or became a patron of their channels and watch the videos they publish there.
I can’t discover new YouTube creators, but I can see the new ones that Nebula brings in, which I find has a much better average quality than YouTube. Lots of noise and click bait crap on YouTube.
Oh, and I forgot, some other creators I follow on Odysee.
Second edit: btw, I’ve been doing this for years, and since grayjay came out it’s been a much smoother experience
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PeerTube is the best alternative if you can find what you want there. Odysee would be the second-best.
Nebula is also great, but it’s paid, so that alone makes it a deal-breaker for a lot of people.
As for everything else, it’s kind of meh.
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There is barely any content on Peertube. Even after installing a custom Peertube plugin, it never showed up in Grayjay’s result except once.
Nebula and Patreon seems to have a subscription model. Which may be fair if we don’t want trackers and adds. Do either accept some privacy payment option such as Monero?
I don’t know how I feel about the LBC coins monetization. Do you have an opinion on that?
The philosophy of PeerTube is ahead of its time. Unfortunately I can’t imagine people creating content in a platform that won’t bring economical returns. Do you have a long term view of the platform evolution?
I haven’t seen the option, but in my threat model that’s OK.
Honestly, I know next to nothing about that. Sounds a bit like made up money to me. If I understand correctly, creators get some LBC just because someone watched their video, but that LBC was created at that point, and hasn’t exchanged hands or anything like that. So by watching a video in a platform that doesn’t monetise eyeballs, I’m not sure how that value was created. I don’t think the creators I follow in Odysee publish there for that LBC either, but to make sure they have a plan B to YouTube for reaching and keeping an audience.
Is there a recommended way to experience PeerTube? I tried to search some content from instance A on instance B and it didn’t show up. Isn’t PT supposed to be federated? There’s a unified search feature that will find more videos than what is displayed by searching on individual instances, but I was hoping for a way to use it similar to the experience on FreeTube or even Invidious - subscribe to channels, have stuff appear in a unified feed.
I watched a video from one of Nebula’s founders, and I’m not sure how to express this without sounding reductionist, but I have a feeling that they may be some kind of YouTube version from Apple. They seem to be too much focused on profit and looking to sell their business after some time, which reflects the typical entrepreneur venture capital mentality. In fact, according to him in the video, they sold a significant portion of their business to Curiosity. While this isn’t necessarily bad for them, in the long run, it could pose risks for a platform with many creators’ content held “hostage” by whatever policies the new company adopts. It could even be Google that buys them in the future. So, I’m not sure if I should really support this corporation.
I checked Odysee a little bit more. At first, it seems quite uncensored.
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I understand the sentiment. And their privacy policy isn’t great either.
For me it’s more about signaling the market that YouTube isn’t the only player, so that YouTube has less power over their audience and creators. And also about supporting the creators I follow and like.
Nebula claims having a partnership with each creator. From their talent.nebula.tv:
Nebula is built as a partnership with our creators. Fifty-fifty. We split the profits every month (based on watch time), and if we ever decide to sell it, half of the sale price goes to the creators.
So at least there’s that.
Not moderated at all I believe. I only follow the creators I already know and ignore the rest. I wouldn’t use this platform to discover content as I do with Nebula. And the comment sections… Better not look at those. YouTube’s shitshow pales in comparison.