Vanadium (GrapheneOS Web Browser)

Wanted to add that the newest Vanadium release has

add initial basic support for filtering ads based on a subresource filter APK updated separately from Vanadium

It looks like it uses these lists from my very amateur reading of the commits

https://easylist.to/easylist/easylist.txt
https://easylist.to/easylist/easyprivacy.txt

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I saw this one. It is a nice improvement. Hope they match the ad blocking level that we have with Brave and also at some point address the cookies questions rejecting all that it cans.

I am very confident that GrapheneOS and/or Daniel Micay will do it right on Vanadium.
From thier page:

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“We recommend against trying to achieve browser privacy and security through piling on browser extensions and modifications. Most privacy features for browsers are privacy theater without a clear threat model and these features often reduce privacy by aiding fingerprinting and adding more state shared between sites.”

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Following the addition of content blocking to Vanadium, the GrapheneOS team has also updated the documentation for Vanadium to be much more detailed.

Very interesting read as the docs also explain their approach to Vanadium and hint at future enhancements.

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Recommend reading this updated documentation on Vanadium, which clarifies some of its security features.

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@abstract
You forgot the documentation /source😆

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You might not have noticed that I quoted the post RIGHT ABOVE myself which CONTAINS a link to the documentation. But I’m glad to at least have given someone a laugh today. :slight_smile: This is something I should do more often (no, I am NOT being sarcastic; I do not make people smile as often as I should).

Edit: it seems I did NOT quote the post above myself. It was my error.

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Yeh i use its on my grapheneos. Use it like a 3rd app.

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Wanted to see if Vanadium has been reconsidered now that it has ad blocking, albeit it’s very basic. I totally see the downside since it’s for a niche crowd that has GOS but maybe suggesting to GOS users specifically to consider it over Brave due to the ad blocking, stronger security and less bloat.

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Oh, cool. Adblocking was the only thing driving me to Brave. Looks like I’m back to Vanadium now.

Hi, I’ve been a reader of the forums for a while, but never took the dive to become a member until now.

Just had a question since I have seen any discussion about it. Earlier this year (March-ish if I remember correctly) Vanadium added content blocking via EasyList and EasyPrivacy, including per-site toggles. Previously, the lack of blocking/filtering was the reason Vanadium was never recommended on the forums (along with being limited to only one OS). Would these 2 additions be enough to change the general opinions on the viability of this browser for privacy?

Cromite had adblockplus for a while now.

https://gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/spec/-/blob/master/spec/abp/filter-lists.md

Familiar with Cromite. While I like it, I haven’t ever found a viable reason to use it over Brave. Using Vanadium at least has the appeal of having one less app on my phone.

Vanadium is the best that you can get when it comes to security.

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I agree. I very much like the security of Vanadium.

I’m more curious about the privacy side since it hasn’t really had a privacy focus until recent updates. I am very familiar with EasyList, but have never really looked into EasyPrivacy as I’ve always either used Brave or uBlock Origin on other browsers. My assumption is that EasyPrivacy is likely good, but admittedly that’s merely speculation on my part.

EasyPrivacy is a default list in uBO

Vanadium is not recommended because mainly this does not offer support for other operating systems.

And that’s a good thing, otherwise it wouldn’t be as secure since Pixel phones are the only ones with hardware linked to a good security

Familiar with that, as far as the guide goes, hence asking what the general recommendation on the forums would be. I do use GrapheneOS, so availability isn’t an issue.

I think I got my answer though. I’ll still follow the thread in case any additional info comes up. I think I’ll go ahead and start using Vanadium, but Brave will still be primary because it still has a higher level of content blocking from my tests….at least based on the sites I visit.

Why don’t you use AdGuard DNS in parallel of Vanadium ? That’s what I do and It’s powerful, I don’t have any ads, works like a charm !