Smart TVs making screenshots of what you're watching, even when you just use them as a monitor

i dont think so, but that’s netflix’s fault, and these services are privacy invasive themselves and people shouldn’t use them if possible

are you talking about old laptops? In case you misunderstood, I’m referring to KDE Plasma’s Bigscreen TV UI, not to old plasma TVs

Agree that is Netflix fault, and they are privacy invasive and people shouldn’t use them if possible but my family still want to be part of the normie society and this isn’t something that I can easily negotiate to a price of downgrading their experience. Apple TV box seems the most practical choice in this scenario.

Fair. If you daily drive linux, you could test a few browser extensions. I cannot verify if they still work and obviously they may stop working at some point but it may be worth a try. I know these worked a while back.

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oh. that makes more sense.

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Your tv is only taking screenshot of your content ? I am going to up you, cause my tv is also recording conversation in the living room with the built-in microphone. Its written in the privacy section, where you can disable features by disagreeing with the policy.

the problem is that most vendors only recognize Windows and Windows feels more like malware with the “unremovable” CoPilot.

Its not overpriced, we all are now used to/conditioned to see the TV prices that are inclusive of the subsidy of these invasive ad tracking.

That is now the fair, privacy respecting price, sad to say.

Am I the only one who just uses a projector and bypasses all of this nonsense with TVs?

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I havent looked into the projector displays. Are there long lasting projectors now? The bulbs they use are consumable, right?

Also, it requires a pitch black room for optimal display?

Depends.

Mine is capable of producing up to 2,700 lumens.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if these have just as much telemetry as their consumer counterparts.
Would like to see actual research on them.

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I did see some have Intelligent Display Signage technologies embedded into some units as I was browsing for that particular model so I think that digital display signage space privacy is starting to shrink as well.

Just don’t connect your smart TV to the internet and you’ll be fine. Some of them (like Sony IIRC) even have a ‘dumb mode’ you can set them to if you never intend to use the smart features.

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I seem to recall from a podcast(?) that some smart appliances do try and snoop around for a passwordless wifi connection in an attempt to connect back to its HQ.

I have seen this possibility floated for years in discussions around smart TVs, but I’ve never encountered any actual evidence, and neither of my smart TVs (one Sony, one Samsung) have ever connected to random Wi-Fis.

Perhaps it’s different with appliances, but for smart TVs it seems theoretical.

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The TVs are likely subsidized because they anticipate making money on the “smart features” through ads and affiliate marketing for subscription services.

In order to make it a dumb TV you would likely need to set it up and then deprive it of internet permanently, using HDMI devices for 100% of the content.

Hm? I’m not sure I understand what you’re talking about. Just using an HDMI cable is no different than using a computer monitor for your laptop. The OS shouldn’t have anything to do with it, it’s just a display.

Part of the reason digital signage displays are expensive is they are built for heavier usage. The model you linked boasts “16/7” (16 hours a day) uptime. Consumer TVs are designed for only about half that, something like 8 hours a day.

Have to admit, I’m really, really confused reading these comments. Why are y’all connecting your TVs to the internet? Heck, why are you bothering with even firmware upgrades, if the TV works?

Privacy with TVs is quite simple:

1: buy TV
2: Buy or make a Kodi box or HTPC for streaming Netflix etc
3: never ever ever connect TV to internet.

If the TV is not connected, aka airgapped, there is no privacy or security risk

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True, but you’re still giving money to assholes and supporting their practices because all they see is their sales going up.

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At this point I’ll pay thousands more to get a corporate or enterprise level large monitor from Dell and connect Apple TV to it to install the very few apps I use for streaming.