Testing, together with the other gallery app from Fossify · GitHub
Lucky I didn’t get used to SMG.
Just be sure to download Aves from F-Droid, from Google Play store tracker is present.
No trackers, probably a false positive. It only has crash reporting which is optional, and even then it shows you what is sent (which doesn’t contain sensitive data), just where in the program it crashed.
I do know that there are 2 versions of Aves : Libre and the normal one (non-libre). I think this is why the non-libre version isn’t on F-Droid.
@dngray
Crashlytics pulls in Google Firebase which pulls in Google Play Services.
They also have another variant with Huawei Mobile Services.
Simple gallery is ~30MB
Fossify gallery is ~15MB
Why that?
They removed the “panorama” support from Fossify Gallery, because the third-party library was not open-source. Seems like it will return at some point, tho.
EDIT: That’s the reason why it’s half the size.
2 Likes
All F-Droid versions of that app were impacted too, it slipped through.
If you are looking for simple mobile tools replacement apps i would suggest you all too look at Right sms , Right dialer , right contacts , gallery by goodwy. These apps are also open source , no ads and are being maintained , nice looking , ios theme.
For some reasom though its new messenger app is not being shown on the playstore but installed on my device and works great. Also has inbuilt import-export of sms.
I hardly send out a text and its mainly for incoming msgs .
1 Like
Yeah the assumption there is you’re installing from Google Play you probably already have Google Play services.
Is the Huawei Mobile Services like crash analytics for Huawei? I don’t see these as a major issue, as sending diagnostic reports are usually fairly anonymized (they don’t contain your pictures or anything) just a stack trace of where program crashed and what kind of device/version etc.
Deku has E2EE
Its Huawei’s equivalent of Google Mobile Services. Handles notifications, for example
RE Google crashlytics
German page but translatable with the right browser.
Not possible to avoid totally (on all apps), but I do check if I really need the app that uses it.
In this case, if there are 2 versions, 1 without it it’s simple 
Other than that, I’m really liking the gallery thanks for pointing there
But that still has the metadata issues silence has, and you need the software to use it, which is about the only benefit of Google Messages as a contact might already just have it. At that point you might as well use Signal.
Signal is an extra app to install while Deku just replaces whatever app people are using for SMS. For that reason, Ive had success having people who would refuse to install an additional messaging app like Signal use Deku and enable E2EE when communicating with me and each other instead
And Google Messages has. For example, here in Portugal the police nowadays normally goes to Google/Apple/Meta/Microsoft to ask for data before they go to the carriers. Carriers tend to be much more protective of costumer data. If anyone wants to read it with the help of a translator, here’s a case where a carrier refused to give out someone’s address and was sued by the public prosecutor’s office: Acórdão do Tribunal da Relação do Porto
That’s not the issue is it though. The issue is the metadata around SMSes which Signal does not have. You still need this Deku app on both phones, and if you’re going to that effort, you might as well use something that solves the problem.
Not E2EE, whereas RCS+Google Messages is. I wouldn’t be trading a promise for a technical requirement that messages can’t be read. Google cannot read E2EE messages even if they wanted to.
1 Like
I agree, its not me you need to convince though. To a lot of people its a replacement for their sms app, not an extra/duplicate app. Its not at random that Signal itself used to support sms, we dont live in a perfect world 
That doesnt apply, we were talking about metadata since Deku has E2EE as well
Google messages isn’t a duplicate app though, it can fall back to SMS if you have to, but it can also upgrade messages to RCS+E2EE. It’s more likely that is going to be installed on someone else’s system image, as OEMs actually ship it, meaning nobody needs to install anything.
1 Like
Sure, then we go back to the fact that youre arguing Google is a better steward of your metadata than your carrier, something Ive addressed in a previous comment.
My argument is that if you cannot get someone to install Signal or something similar (plenty of people I know got burnt by Signal sending out mms without warning), its good if you can at least get them to use Deku instead of Google’s app.
That quite well might be the case depending on where you live. Even in countries with a good privacy jurisdiction there’s a lot less hoops to go through to get that data than with an international provider’s legal dept.
If it doesn’t support SMS, I don’t see why it would support MMS.
That’s generally where the problem is 
1 Like
Said international providers normally have local subsidiaries and are also better equipped to deal with data requests. They don’t spend months internally processing the request while their legal team bills them to think about whether they should do it or not. Companies like Google in their local subsidiaries have small legal teams, sometimes one person, paid to do whatever costs less money to the company, which is normally to comply.
It used to support both…