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As the discussion is for the Android version of Privacy Browser, I don’t think the PC version should be discussed in this thread. Maybe due to a misunderstanding on my part, I thought the Android 4.x version would be based on Qt WebEngine, which is why I brought it up.

However, as it is based on AOSP WebView, it’s still subject to the same reasoning linked above by dngray:

However, I am not part of the team, and I’ll leave it up to them to decide whether or not to add Privacy Browser to their list of recommendations.

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Personally, I think at the moment this is probably our main issue with Privacy Browser, because I think this is a big issue compared to Brave. I want to wait for Privacy WebView in your 4.x release, and then we’ll look at this again :slight_smile:

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For those who are interested, they can use WebView DevTools to enable site-per-process isolation for Android System Webview using the instructions at my website linked to above (the forum won’t let me post the same hyperlink twice, but in a code block it looks like https://www.stoutner.com/webview-devtools/). As far as can tell, this is the same as the site isolation that is used in Chromium, and presumably Brave unless they have further modified what Chromium is doing.

This isn’t nearly as comprehensive as the complete tab profile isolation I have implemented in Privacy Browser PC or that I intend to implement in Privacy WebView, which isolates tabs from each other, including all cookies, even if they have the same site loaded, but it is something.

This is what I wrote in the comments on my site about using WebView DevTools. “site-per-process is an interesting option. It enables Google’s site-isolation feature, which is off by default (it seems for RAM reasons, but there might be some other reason). At some point this will likely become the default WebView behavior. I am not sure I would recommend it generally as Google lists it as highly experimental, but I personally have not yet had any problems enabling it.” Perhaps it is time for me to make it an official recommendation.

Note that this is an OS wide change in WebView’s settings. It affects all apps that use WebView on a device, not just Privacy Browser.

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may I ask why not just fork chromium itself instead of webview (like bromite)? Wouldn’t it give more freedom

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There are several reasons, which I list in no particular order.

  • I dislike Chromium’s GUI. I think one of the advantages of Privacy Browser is that the entire GUI layer has been built from scratch in a much more functional way.
  • Chromium is bloated. Very bloated. Trying to remove all the junk from it would probably require more effort than building those components in Privacy Browser from scratch.
  • Most of the tracking code in Chromium is contained in the sections that are not part of WebView. If I were to create a rolling fork of Chromium, I would constantly have to check that Google hadn’t snuck in new tracking code that I hadn’t yet removed.
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Privacy Browser is fully immersive experience of reading what it matters with no consultation of inappropriate faces from the thieves cult.
I downloaded it today and keeps me interested in.
Thank you very much Sir.

But I have to say what brings me here.
While tunneling whole deice with Orbot, my default browser returned search results in german, based on my location. And prior activities I’ve had.

Privacy Browser ignored the german results or didn’t even reached my prior activities metadata?

I had to find out because the search engine web results were spoken in english. Giving some feeling that the browser works somewhat of what is said.

And after a few searches at random, plus opening the websites at random I noticed Privacy Browser which had 3rd Parties Trackers blocking on … is leaking data to 3rd Parties, sending calls to google, to adhubs, to various APIs.

Of course I was sure now … everybody knows I am the guy from Germany and … they are not returning me websites or search results in german language or of german origin because my Privacy Browser set up is showing I am negatively affected by this kind of … both, origins snd language of whom I try get rid of or from where I try to escape using a so called “Privacy Browser”

Because Googleuser content if applied to will know who i am independent of the chosen IP … or the java, cookies choices I’ve made.

Also today is impossible to escape notoriety with just that after a long time when I browsed in german internet space.

But that would not even worry me a lot … because as I said in beginning, I know how to set up my things and bypass all conventional trackers databases.

What it worried me it was once the notoriety of Google being a quasi disguised central criminal org to whom my “Privacy Browser” is sending alerts about what I’m doing.

And this while I’m told 3rd party trackers plus their databases recognition system is / are blocked.

And this while even if I try to communicate this discovery to a developer of this browser … and I tried Fosstodon, Mastodon, then the Forum, Reddit and do on … I realize the “the guy Stoutner” is self evolving himself into a tight circle of beliefs whats he’s doing is OK, but nobody can tell him how wrong it is … if anyone out of this circle tries too

Is Sir Stoutner the experiment or the experimented in this tight circle, every year … tighter?

Because Google gets bigger every year too.
Tbats why my question.

And tbanks God somebody gave me the chance to change the public IP and discard cookies or not even accept them and clean Java forced injections.

Tools which are millenium old, I can say.
But up to date for the nowadays Android OS.

Tools which were used on PCs now also on mobile phones thanks to you Sir.

But we are little bit in the age when we want to have those criminals sending ten helicopters to my home and another ten to everyone’s home who uses Privacy Browser. We want to get all dirty databases and their servers crushed.

Useless.

We don’t want to evade … As evasion is possible only for the very smarts.
We want them dead. Useless.

How useful is a database if it has you and me stealing from Pentagon. Snd another 1 million users of the browser too?

This is the real browser we need. Not one who simulates privacy and it does it so bad.

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I appreciate very much the concerns about using WebView as miracle solution.
As time goes by Android OS earns more and more command lines and rules and …at some point it was the risk to turn the mobile phones into warming installations.
Because every app can crack into this OS and can motivate Android to loop in between its Rules … without executing least one.

So if you have on screen Privacy Browser opened at a websiteyou will keep watching this website for hours and your phone will get warmer, sign is heavilly processing something, but without executing any of the Android/App Rules in between which is looping.

Thus it was needed WebView.

An earlier version of Android was developed bringing in looping processes for speeding up and skip to the End Execution … But the development at this version was HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO BE BLOCKED, RESTRICTIONED.
Because it was bringing on markets a phone with top qualities dangerous as hell if in wrong hands.

Thus being said… Android was sold out … Of course Google could not say, but thanks to the fool.
And now we have WebView to … execute.
Everything Google does on it is bad.

Just like Youtube was sold to Google for censorship. Android was sold to Google for … censorship in nowadays terms called “security”.

I tell you what does Google with my phone.
If my battery discharges and I want to start charging it, I cannot actually do it before Google is alerted I wantvto charge my phone battery … and allows it.

If by any chance I succeed to make my phone to NO SENDINGS TO GOOGLE API … then my phone battery will charge up (still) up to 1% in cca 10-20 minutes.

This is the security we talk about in WebView.
By the way, Google plans are to takeover all internet. Plus apps developers.

So … you decide what is WebView. But I bet you could much better work at kernel. At how kernel Views the WebView. And then we may really have a new phone in hands thanks an applet.

Thank you for trying Sir.
I know is very hard. But it makes sense to try.
WebView apps are later in time listed by phone manufacters as their dialog with the market.

Your work will be appreciated.

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The WebView site per process is top gun… we now speak algorytms, progress …

Finally a man around the place.

And WebXRequestedHeaderwith … HeaderControl is absolute fantastic … but it needs a logcat.

And if we have a logcat then we are not very fast I assume, I’d better go on assumption all this type of “white listed trackers” by app devs are imposed … by force.
Also we can restrict overlayed screens to by same utility. So the apps wont hack our phones without having us knowing and preventing it.
The option should work on every app on phone.

Stoutner … don’t hesitate to bring the kernel down the table of site isolation

Or app relocation through XRequestedHeader with HeaderControl

You are quite making processors run faster.
I believe your work will be on every phone one day

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Why should we trust you when it is your first post here, and you write ambiguous and wild sentences ?
Any screenshot maybe?