A now-deleted post on r/GrapheneOS shared what appears to be an internal Motorola presentation slide highlighting GrapheneOS under the company’s security offerings.
Going with a Chinese owned OEM is…an interesting choice.
I was hopeful the Sony rumors would prove to be true, but Motorola always seemed the most likely.
Edit: I am interested to see if all the bloatware mentioned on this slide will be included in the GrapheneOS edition of the phone, or if the GrapheneOS option will be a clean install. I’d hope so, but knowing Motorola that could be wishful thinking and maybe they have some agreement.
I don’t think the intent is to ship these with Graphene pre installed as that would be a security risk and defeat part of the purpose. The Graphene team at least said that once before, iirc.
Why there is a soccer ball as GrapheneOS logo? ![]()
The ‘Moto RKP’ is immediately interesting… better virtualization leveraged for isolation has been a long term goal on the GOS roadmap for a while
I don’t think GOS will come preinstalled. If it does, it may directly come from the non profit directly with a packing like how NovaCustom does for their Qubes OS installed devices as an option they have.
I also don’t think or can’t believe GOS will agree that it come with any bloat at all. It defeats the purpose.
I say this out of pragmatic rationalism. I just hope its not a massive device. Give us a 6 inch tops. GOS users are almost always minimal so don’t need an iPad mini size screen for everything.
Actually, now that I think about it.
I don’t know if this “leak” is intentional or not. Could be to see how the enthusiasts react. Could not be because the person who made the deck did not know not to add it in. Or if this was a client presentation, they may be using GOS to brag that Moto is now capable of supporting GOS and providing the very high security standards any client may be prioritizing.
Possibilities, possibilities.
Hopefully no bloatware and if there is, GOS will also give us a clean ROM. Think of all the possible attack surface areas with that Motorola crap!
I’m not sure what to make of this. I really wish it were Samsung or even Sony. Does Motorola even make cutting-edge hardware anymore?! I know it’s owned by Lenovo, but even they aren’t known for their cameras.
I’m almost praying that GOS will support the Pixel 11 if Motorola is the OEM. I know Google will have better cameras. Furthermore, the P11 is likely to come with the next-gen Titan M3 chip. I know Google’s SoC isn’t cutting edge, but it’s good enough for my use case! I just want good cameras and cutting-edge security!
We’ll have to see if Google still has or will continue making the bootloader unlockable. I think it would depend on that and if they keep releasing AOSP updates too.
Like I said, I’m praying!
FRAK
The one and only Moto I owned had a nearly unusable touch screen. I had to tap multiple times for any action to happen. Swiping was the same, swipe - nothing, swipe - nothing, swipe - bottom on page. I hope they have gotten better.
When was the last time you used it? Way back during the resistive touch era or in the capacitve touch era?
I expect that phone will be more according to GOS’ requirements, than Motorola’s. And I think it’s a good choice for partnership, though Motorola doesn’t have good history of long device (security) support. It’s not the worst, but it’s far from the best, 3-4 years for most of their devices. I’m sure GOS model will have longer, e.g. Edge 70 will have it almost 6 years.
I think, or at least hope, that devices with GOS preinstalled will bring significant revenue to GOS team. Also switching will be much easier than today. And having large OEM supporting it will hopefully have impact on authorities and big companies to reconsider if new “security” requirements pushed by Google (play store, play integrity, developer verification…) are really the only way.
The craziest thing they can do is have Moto make and ship a device where battery is swappable/replaceable yourself like the old Nokia phones of the past.
This would surely be nutty and might attract some average persons to move to the device since no other smartphone is providing such an option. It’d be much easier to convince people to install GOS if your everyday person buys it because of this.
I’m just thinking out loud cause if this is happening, it would mostly if not fully happen with how GOS wants the hardware to have cause no matter what it is, I’m sure Moto has the tech to manufacture it.
2016 Moto G4 Play. IPC Touchscreen. It was a budget model. I switched to a Samsung S4 which was a dream to use in comparison.
It’s harder to build a waterproof phone with a replaceable battery.
No phone is waterproof. They are all water resistant, temporarily.
But I take your point.
Things have changed a lot in the Android world since then. Right now, any OEM’s flagship works like a dream with Snapdragon’s top-of-the-line chips.
