I'm curious about online privacy in Japan because I wanna live there

With the recent age verification laws and more invasive tracking by banning the use of anonymous VPN, etc. I’m interested into about living in Japan, and one thing bother me a lots is their “privacy laws”.

For now, it’s fine, but I’m just really worried about the future change, cause it takes years to learn Japanese and migrate to, but if it could change for the worse, then I don’t know what’s the point to trying.
I’m not a journalist or something that require extreme anonymity. I do only need to live in a country that respects my privacy. I’m willing to accept having their national ID or register to the SIM card, but at minimal. For most of the time, I’ll keep using my privacy respecting tools and operating system, like GrapheneOS, E2EE providers.

I wanna here more about your opinion. You can ask me more if you wanna know something specific.

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Privacy is being eroded everywhere, so do not depend on a country’s laws respecting your privacy needs now or in the future as the sole reasoning to relocate.

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I second the advice don’t rely on laws for protection. There are two broad reasons.

  • Legal privacy protections in generality are at the whim of governments to be properly enforced and not be eroded over time.
  • Laws change over time, activities you do now may become criminal at a later stage, and criminal suspects are afforded far fewer legal privacy protections.

Further, even if a country affords good privacy protections to the general population, laws and immigration systems that explicitly target foreigners keep them under surveillance and control and downgrade their human rights protections.

I don’t mean to dissuade you from migrating to Japan but you need better reasons than just legal privacy protections. Perhaps safety, health, freedom, nature, culture, personality fit or career prospects?

I visited Japan and it’s amazing. As a visitor I saw some privacy exists, for instance cash payments, paper train tickets, fewer CCTV cameras in retail businesses, wide acceptance of wearing face masks, and blurring of faces in photos is more commonplace than I see outside Japan.

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At least in Japan, there aren’t any laws that stop you from using privacy-respecting tools or operating systems, and there aren’t any laws being discussed right now that would stop you either.

Age verification is a topic that’s being looked at really closely at the moment by the Japan government and relevant experts. But they have only just started talking about what the best way to do it should be.
It’ll probably take a while before the specific laws are written, but if what happened in other countries works out well, it’s likely Japan will do something similar and think about having laws about age verification.
From what I’ve heard at the expert meetings, the idea of introducing an age verification system using electronic signatures on government-issued IDs isn’t being turned down. In fact, it’s pretty much being welcomed. They’re thinking about introducing something like the EU’s digital age verification apps, as they think this could improve the age restriction system, which has always been based on self-declaration and hasn’t been very effective.
They’re mainly concerned about age groups that should be subject to restrictions and how much academic evidence there is to support the implementation of such restrictions.

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you made me so overthinking about this. I’m just fall into the privacy fatigue trap. I read recent news about age verification and kyc on r/privacy and now it’s just so hard to being optimism.
In my country, basically everything is kyc, I literally can’t escape from them, sim provider, and banking. (this does applied to most countries too, including Japan). the local app messaging chat require me to scan my ID and face or they’ll ban for no reason, but I have to use it for school cause yet, people around me just don’t aware about how bad it is.

Even doing nothing wrong, I’m scared of being wiretapping or “detention “ due to no one uses Signal except me. I love Japanese culture, cause I’m really into Japanese stuff when I was at 12 years old. Of course, privacy isn’t the main thing I’m consider about Japan. I wanna live there for other reasons too. But privacy is something I’m really curious about, because deeply, Japanese people cares about their privacy, not revealing their real name on social media, wearing masks when on outside, etc. I’m worried because privacy is basically being eroded, mostly in EU and UK (I wish to be in Swiss but as a non EU citizen, it’s nearly impossible for me to migrate there with a few exception).
Japan is a dream country to me, wondering if it’s a suitable option for me or not.

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Well if there’s no more alternative I will try to reduce the risks of using KYC services. Like using one official registered sim and another non KYC voip. Due to being a student, I haven’t making any money yet and still having a heavy reliance on my family’s financial. So I can’t really buy them at the moment and have to accept the reality of using all of the services in my local country (largely due to my family and schools needs to keep in touch with me, mostly they will use local app in my country i can’t disclose, or will call straight from cellphone). Migrate to Japan will make more sense as I will deregister my old providers (sim, banking) and switching to new one, forcing my family to have a new way to communicate (like Signal).
I’m just really depressed about the KYC everywhere in my country lol, can’t crying much but I have to comply lots of them, but I try to minimize all the footprint as possible right now, cause I can’t change what I am used to. Basically my biometrics (face) and ID has been uploaded to providers in the past so can’t help.

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Not a journalist or doing any criminal activities, but I’m deeply care about my privacy. I’m fighting for it but at the same time, I’m get so tired and I’m overthinking a lots, how overwhelming it is.

Edit: I’m also aware of Japan due to heavy reliance on USA (military and NSA’s mass surveillance infrastructure). I’m thinking Japan haven’t been doing this since they’re not really “good” in computer (which requires sufficient English) so they haven’t started to spy yet??? Just my instructive thought.

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I read your messages and I’ll offer you some advice: stay calm. If they want to spy on you, they’ll do it—don’t let it get to you. For example, in cities there are cameras even inside stores; they can track you and profile your activities, etc.—not just online, but in real life as well.

It’s good for you to know what I just told you: maximum privacy doesn’t exist, nor does anonymity. Therefore, if you’re looking to minimize your exposure, here are some strategies:

1. Practice self-control. Do it this way: on the table, place a large sheet of paper, draw a grid, and inside it, write the numbers 0 through 5 in order. Using your fingers, touch a number (if you touched the number 2, use two fingers). Repeat and try to speed up the process more and more until you master it. Now, draw another grid but scramble the numbers. Repeat the process and speed up. If you fail, try again; the more you practice, the more you’ll master it, and this applies to everything else you do in life. Take a deep breath if needed, control your emotions, and think clearly; turn fear into courage, even in the most difficult and adverse situations…

2. Try inviting people you trust to use useful tools like Signal, for example.

3. Paranoia, for example, is not an option; inner peace is vital.

4. Use what you have; don’t despair if you don’t have that.

Stay strong, and if you need any more help, let me know—I’ll do whatever I can.

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Thank you for your thoughtful comment.
I know it sounds like a mental health comment, but i’m not really stable. There’s only one “life” to live, yet I’m so paranoid about anything and overwhelm about the comments on Reddit about privacy. Privacy is just a small thing bothers me in my life, there’s more about my mental health but I don’t wanna disclose here due to its irrelevant. I tired to me optimism but things actually get worse overtime. The fact that I’m tired to be a stoicism, but falling short into privacy fatigue just ruined me a lots. It’s painful, but I have to keep fighting all of the things in my life at the same time make me at the worst.
Thank you for taking care of me, a lots. Wish you have a great day bro!

Edit again: You’re right about “If they want to spy on you, they’ll do it—don’t let it get to you.”
In fact I’m just a normal person wanted to be private. Life is just too short to overthink on anything, because people don’t really care about me yet I’m pretend they are in real life, I just make a bad expectation and imagination, which hurts me a lots. Still trying to find a good balance between privacy and my spiritual/ mental in this life.

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The thing is, these days there’s a lot of advertising (“buy, buy”) and not much realism—I’m not making this up; it’s been around for a long time.

Stay calm. Also, I’ll tell you three things:

1. Watch the movie called They Live; the system is designed for passive consumption without questioning, reasoning, etc. It’s shared here in list number 11, but you’ll see strange things—if you have any doubts, let me know: Favorite Sci-fi or Privacy movies/tv?

2. On the social network Reddit, there are many different things happening; however, its privacy and security are questionable. I simply log in to observe, take what I need, and discard the rest, so what’s “overwhelming” doesn’t affect me.

3. A more reasonable VPN provider that I’ve noticed and think is worth mentioning is IVPN. Unfortunately, it needs improvements and is a bit slow to update. Next, the second one is Mullvad. Both are worth it. The thing is, I don’t trust any VPN company—not because I’m “paranoid or locked in a cage,” but because true trust starts from scratch and is dynamic, not fixed or default.

Take care of yourself and stay strong.

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I agree, that’s something I consider one of the “curses” of being privacy aware.

This realization is one of the hardest things to accept, every place in the world has people wanting to know something about you. Whether it’s for security, to monetize your data, or to control the information you see, it’s a harsh reality.

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Hello, I live in Japan. I migrated from an EU country a few years ago. I felt I should write a response outlining some experiences thus far. Bear in mind I lived in an EU country so I cannot contrast the experiences of migrating from outside the EU.

As @FranklyFlawless put it so eloquently, privacy is slowly but surely decreasing everywhere you go, so I wouldn’t hedge your bets on Japan being a last safe haven for privacy.

I understand this may not be apparent if you’ve only lived in one place, but immigrating basically anywhere means giving a lot of your personal data to the government or relevant authority. Japan’s laws dictate all foreigners carry on their person at all times a 在留カード or foreign resident’s card which shows your name, DOB, country of origin, current address etc. Police are entitled to ask you for your card, refusing to hand it over may lead to more trouble. In my experience, I’ve never been asked for my card out on the street. It also may be one of the only forms of ID you can hand over in order to avail of services like hotels, phone plans, etc.

Furthermore, Japan has recently rolled out a マイナンバーカード or MyNumber card, which also displays lots of info about you, as well as your 個人番号 or personal number, you can think of it like a social security number in the US, it’s necessary to give to employers so they can calculate your tax effectively.

The MyNumber card faced scrutiny from the Japanese public for the sheer amount of personal data it requires, but slowly and surely it is becoming more widely adopted, with health insurance cards being phased out in favour of having it stored on the MyNumber card. This means needing to bring and show your card if you want to go to the clinic or hospital. As a foreigner, I’m quite sure you are required to enroll for a MyNumber card when you register your residence at your local city hall. Anytime you move city, you have to inform your former and current city hall of the move.

As you can see, like most governments I’d imagine, Japan expects you to hand over a lot of personal info to do many things, and there isn’t much leeway. Speaking anecdotally, Japanese are relatively privacy conscious, particularly when it comes to the Internet. Most people use social media giving away as little personal info or uploading as few personal photos as possible, and people vlogging or taking photos in public places are fairly rare. Having said that, there is little reluctance in handing over info to other people or companies. I believe this stems from a belief that data leaks/breaches etc. are unlikely. Cyberattacks are on the rise in Japan as well so this attitude may slowly change.

I will say I haven’t encountered much difficulty using tools to mitigate my privacy, for example, I switched to GrapheneOS about a year ago and so far all my banking and payment apps have worked flawlessly. Furthermore, all my online accounts use aliased email addresses through things like SimpleLogin, and I have never encountered a service that would not work with the aliased info.

To wrap up, I think Japan is by no means a bad place for privacy, but I wouldn’t choose to live here purely on that merit. There are plenty of good reasons to live in Japan, though. It is a beautiful and mostly crime-free place to live. I think if I were to have children and could raise them anywhere, I would choose here. And I do not regret my decision to move.

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Thank you for your insightful messages. Really appreciate from your comments, as I’m worried a bit. But now, I might somewhat think more clearly about it. Yes, privacy isn’t the purely reason I wanna come, just wanted to know more. I think having to comply with the government is the harsh reality but I am willing to reduce it as much as I can (like the bare minimum). At least I love Japan for more reasons than just privacy itself. Thank you, I’ll might thinking deeply if migrate is worth it or not.

Edit: I think Japan has a really special spot into me, that’s kinda why I wanna to be there. Kinda like my dream to live there, truly…

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You’re very welcome! Yeah, it’s unfortunate but you have to do whatever the government says, especially as an immigrant. It’s not worth putting things like legality and health at risk.

I think you should, moving country is a big thing, and if you’re from a Western country, places in Asia will have rules and customs that feel alien to you. But it’s a country at the end of the day, and I can tell you from experience that people are the people no matter where you go lmao. I get the sense you’re young if you’re still a student, so you have plenty of time to think it over and prepare.

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If you’re white (or black), you’ll die of loneliness on these islands. Read about the collectivism that exists in Japan. You might not like that lifestyle and way of thinking. In collectivist societies, privacy is, in principle, impossible.

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The state of privacy is changing everywhere. So basically you’d be better of looking into how Japanese society works specifically: behavioral norms, stereotypes, history, culture, current state of socialization processes, state of economy. Privacy is important but you can’t live in a society and be separate of it. You’ll have to blend in to build connections. We’re social beings, we live, develop and grow through connections. If you like Japan that much then go for it, in the end you’ll be probably dealing with the same problems privacy wise, such as age checking apps, digital finance control, chat control etc. If you can find a sensible workaround for these problems in your current region of living then you can do it everywhere to a reasonable extent, Japan included.

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Living in the countryside is a way to live independently, but of course, it all depends on the area and your circumstances; it requires a degree of independence, and at the very least, it offers a bit more privacy.
You can stay in touch with the people you trust.

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Actually, I’m from Southeast Asia so yeah should be sharing little to some familiar. I love Japan overall, but the people here are very chaotic. I should have to think twice.

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It’s over…

https://archive.is/20260421223831/https://asia.nikkei.com/business/technology/japan-weighs-age-based-filtering-on-social-media-to-combat-addiction

I mean there’s no way to really escape this. It’s being eroded everywhere in the world now. I just lose the hope to continue living.

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It is over when you decide to quit resisting.

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