I have Samsung galaxy S10e which been degoogled using Canta (no root)
I have troubles to receive notifications from Viber, Telegram and ProtonMail.
Anybody have experience with this? Maybe you can help me?
It’s because you removed GMS, without it, push notifications cannot work.
Some apps like the FluffyChat Matrix client support alternative notification services. This needs to be explicitly supported by the developer, if it’s not, there’s nothing you can do about it.
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- Degoogling is nonsense, and it’s not a good approach to privacy and security.
- You didn’t delete anything, you should stop using that app. You can’t delete system apps using ADB or even when using root.
- That app broke Google Play Services, which is needed to provide you notifications using FCM.
My suggestion: factory reset the device and don’t mess around with ADB unless you 100% know what you’re doing.
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All of these rely on Push Notifications from Google. Really difficult to degoogle stock Androids tbh, considering how much Google services are integral to their functioning and updates.
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With the app You Have Mail (f-droid) you can receive notifications for Proton Mail without Google Play Services.
Also Molly-Foss and Signal send notifications without GPS, but you can expect a higher battery use.
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It’s not about privacy. I just don’t want to use any services of that company. I hate google. That’s all.
Done! Thanks! Not best, but works.
I know this. I use it
That’s what I need to fix too. Ok, maybe someone will help
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i think a reasonable solution for proton mail notification is already given to you by others.
for other platform I’d suggest unifiedpush. there’s molly-up, Mercurygram etc already supporting it. also significantly better for battery life unlike websocket solutions.
If you want to degoogle your phone in a more secure and efficient way, It’s a lot better to switch on Pixel devices with GrapheneOS.
Samsung phones are privacy nightmares too, you don’t need to have Google to have your data exploited.
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Take a look at Samsung apps, their privacy policy :
When you upload, transmit, create, post, display or otherwise provide any information, materials, documents, media files or other content on or through our Sites (“User Content”) you grant us an irrevocable, unlimited, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to copy, reproduce, adapt, modify, edit, distribute, translate, publish, publicly perform and publicly display the User Content (“User Content License”), to the full extent allowed by Applicable Law
Google is not the only one to collect a hell lot of your data
People here already explained you what is issue.
Solution is unified push.
Use ntfy and clients which support it.
Telegram : Mercurygam
Mastodon : Moshidon
Otherwise there are hacks for protonmail etc.
They are not my primary mail provider so I do not know anything about it. They were requested to support unified push from long time but they do not implemented it.
Why is degoogling nonsense?
Less information goes to google itself, for me it seems like almost the same as installing a custom rom in terms of privacy.
My suggestion: factory reset the device and don’t mess around with ADB unless you 100% know what you’re doing.
I have used Universal debloater for this purpose.
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Because not using something just because it’s made by Google is nonsense.
They’re alternative operating systems, not custom ROMs. Only GrapheneOS and DivestOS will improve your privacy and security significantly. Other options will either be worse than just using the stock OS or barely any better.
It’s a security and privacy theater, nothing more than that.
If you want to remove an application, then you need to either have your phone rooted, which is a very bad practice for multiple reasons, or remove those apps from the OS image itself.
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Please clarify why.
I think not using the google keyboard could help me against profiling for example. Using Signal with a google keyboard is nonsense in my opinion.
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Google Keyboard uses federated learning to improve their predictions, which protects users privacy, but even that is optional and can be disabled.
Apart from that, Google Keyboard doesn’t collect anything else.
This is just FUD.
This is one of the biggest problems with the privacy community, barely anyone is technical and knows what they’re talking about, so instead they just choose to generalize everything, which results in FUD and misinformation.
Some generalization examples: everything big tech is spyware, proprietary is spyware, etc.
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Yes a lot of it is uncertainty and doubt but does this make these statements any less true?:
I can’t be certain how my data is used by google.
A lot of open source alternatives provide the same functionality and ensure that data is not collected and thus can not be used.
*But I do want to get myself a new phone for grapheneos eventually, I just recently bought a phone. And I thought I could do some precautions with my current phone, even if it’s not rooted.
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For Telegram maybe forkgram or Telegram-FOSS I don’t use Telegram so I’m just guessing.
The generalizations are pretty correct, and you should not trust privacy policies and you definitely should not trust Gboard with network permission or even at all if you have GPS with network permission in the same profile.
Google’s policies are probably very trustworthy in relation to stuff they store themselves and use for advertising. But they have legal permission to omit the stuff they collect and sell to Prysm.
This is completely baseless unless you can prove that Gboard privacy toggles do not work or that Gboard exfiltrates data through GPS using IPC.
We don’t need to have a proof to be careful about that since everybody knows how much Google collect your data based on all controversies from past years. This is just call precautionary principle and It’s part of good opsec.
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It’s called FUD.
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