I’ll give it a go!
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Hi I thought I would feedback that I have made the switch and I’m very happy with comaps. Thanks for your help.
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This thread is something…
What’s the roadmap for a suggestion like this?
It doesn’t seem like there’s a way to build consensus to replace OM without some significant negative event affecting it.
I don’t have a personal stake in this matter, but I find topics with numerous votes and extensive discussions, yet seemingly no decisions in sight, to be interesting regarding the next steps in the tool suggestion process. Is it just destined to be in purgatory like so many other tool suggestion topics out there?
Comaps has improved bike navigation by adding a penalty for excessive turns. No more repeated turns and more straight roads.
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Used CoMaps via CarPlay for the first time today. Although some of the UI elements could be tweaked to make things easier to see, I actually really liked the app. If real time traffic could be incorporated I don’t think I’d ever need to go back to Apple/Google.
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They are working on optional live traffic
There is also work on larger features that is ongoing: People are working on decoupling updating the map files from the app, improving the public transport integration, better displaying Panoramax street-level imagery, and even on features to implement optional live traffic data. None of these have concrete release-dates, but will continue to be developed this year.
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Ah that’s great, will keep an eye out.
Link?
(or did you mean some of the codeberg issues tracking some of those features? Those are at https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues)
I meant where he got the live traffic quote from but I found it on.
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Adding live traffic to comaps will be huge. Basically, only Youtube will remain to completely deGoogle.
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~10th month update:
- CoMaps has matured over the better part of a year and proven they’re here to stay.
- CoMaps now has a non-exhaustive list of feature improvements they’ve developed in comparison to Organic Maps.
- In addition to actually fulfilling Privacy Guides’ open source criteria, CoMaps seems to also offer noteworthy quality of life improvements over Organic Maps.
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“Additional Points of Interest on the map“ - they’re shipping non OSM sources by default, which is a downside if you ask me as they can’t be easily changed and lead to spam on OSM maps due to users reporting non existent entities. This claim in particularly should at least be backed by something: “Improved routing engine and more accurate arrival time estimation and support for conditional restrictions“. Path engines are always a mix of balance between speed and accuracy. If they’re talking about pathways priority - this claim especially needs to be checked.
Other UI/UX stuff is obviously subjective.
Such differences aren’t substantial when CoMaps fanbase want to remove Organic Maps and replace it with CoMaps.
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Interesting point, I wasn’t aware they were working outside of OSM. I don’t follow CoMaps closely so I wonder if their reasoning on why they did it this way was explained anywhere? If not, someone could always ask.
I suppose, but several people on this thread expressed they had a better experience using CoMaps over Organic Maps. It’s not a proper survey but it’s a good indication that people (at least in this community) prefer the CoMaps UI/UX.
Being open source, community-led, and (according to most who commented on it here thus far) a better UI/UX are all great reasons to replace the partly proprietary and dictatorially controlled Organic Maps recommendation with CoMaps instead.
The only legitimate objection I’ve seen was that CoMaps was too young to recommend many months ago when this thread was started, but we’re nearly a year out and CoMaps is going strong and clearly here to stay. I’m anticipating that the benefits of CoMaps will only become more apparent in the coming months and it’ll be even harder to argue to keep the Organic Maps recommendation as it doesn’t meet Privacy Guides’ open source criteria while (according to most) providing a worse UI/UX.
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I am still a bit unclear why that even needs to happen. Like, I get they are similar but it still only brings the total number of map app reccomendations to 3. I also think that it creates an unnecessarily higher bar for CoMaps to get over when it not only has to meet all the criteria but, it also has to be worth removing Organic Maps. It doesn’t seem particularly fair or likely given those constraints.
IMO, we can just recommend both. They both see active development, so I don’t see any reason why we can’t have both. Leadership, etc. isn’t really a factor for end users when the app is open-source anyway. From a privacy/security perspective anyway.
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Quite the opposite for me. I feel bad for the founding team of mapsme. They’ve carried out their product for so long just to be forked and dwindled into death. This feels somewhat similar to tech giants forking Elasticsearch, hashivault etc. just to keep their paying margins lower. While it’s true that the founders of all these things chose open source specifically because they wanted to contribute value to the world and wouldn’t mind their company/endeavors to disappear as long as the tech they’ve produced will carry on, it’s doesn’t excuse people trying to screw genuine effort.
I don’t appreciate people lying/downplaying the contributions of the founders. Politicizing the fact every project has founders and wanting a fork to be denocratic is very… strange to say the least. Sure, it’s a dictatorship. Just take a look at the ratio of contributions. At least be honest with your intentions. Deplatforming Organic Maps, brigading users and lying about the project should be recognized as petty behavior. I don’t get how people can genuinely feel good about bikeshedding organic maps. Surely they deserve all of this for embedding fully offline, non invasive ads for booking a hotel when viewing info about a particular entity, or being undemocratic.
To this day the CoMaps fork feels like the most random act of politicizing an OSS project for me.
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Why should Privacy Guides go against their open source criteria and prefer proprietary software?
Which big tech company is behind the CoMaps fork of Organic Maps and who is profiting off of this non-profit project?
Organic Maps has (or at least had?) proprietary software. In any case, what’s the point of being open source if no one should fork software?
The open letter was seeking to address concerns over governance, transparency, and potential profiteering from Organic Maps’ shareholders at the expense of the community which Organic Maps chose not to address, leading to a fork.
Who’s saying the founders didn’t contribute anything and why should that even matter in this discussion? If CoMaps better fulfills Privacy Guides’ criteria, they should be preferred. Bonus points if they offer an even better app which most people here seem to think they do.
How is Organic maps proprietary? What?
I pointed out the similarities between various ways of screwing up with the open source founders. I wasn’t saying that CoMaps is driven by the same incentives Enterprise has.
GrapheneOS is proprietary software because it’s production builds pipeline is “proprietary” and hidden (reciting the most recent drama on X). An open source having some backend components not yet opensource is the weirdest thing to complain about. Organic Maps being open source is a gift but you’re not only complaining but actively harass the gifter.
Yes, i referred to this as the main reason behind the fork being made, i.e politizing and wanting to get a hold of the project as the sole motivation itself.
There was no expense to the community. People had donated funds to the project and the founding member paid himself a salary by spending money on a vacation AFAIK.
What a funny way to phrase the situation. People came in and started brigading against Organic Maps because it isn’t “democratic”. If Organic maps didn’t met the existing PG criteria, there would be nothing to talk about. You all came to change the criteria to exclude Organic Maps.
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You didn’t bother reading what you’re replying to and are making baseless accusations of harassment. I have already wasted too much time responding to concern trolling in this thread so I won’t dignify this with more back and fourth replies. I have no affiliation with either of these projects and everyone on this forum is free to read what people wrote and come to their own conclusions.