Cloudflare concerns

Well, Cloudflare made new agressive “anti bot” update, so now it refuses users to access websites with canvas randomized

See this screnshots


You would sau “what the problem to disable randomization?”, am I right? So the problem is that Cloudflare acts as MITM, so you cannot disable randomization for only Cloudflare. You can disable it for whole domain. That’s what causes concerns: if I disable canvas protection for certain website, it means it’s admins will spy on me too.

Also, this shitty approach ruins RFP/FPP and Arkenfox configs in Firefox that cannot be “disable” only for one domain.

So I hate Cloudflare and wish it never existed. Why it should be users problem, that website want to protect from bots? Just hire human mods or shut down business!

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No. It’s more likely a problem with your browser or broken extensions.

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The heinous crime of ‘‘looking like you’re trying to hide your identity’’ on the public web.

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I can confirm this.

I took your post and submitted issues to Mozilla and Arkenfox

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thorin is gonna have an “interesting” response for you

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No problem on Tor or Mullvad—which I assume protect you from fingerprinting better than whatever setup is breaking Cloudflare. You could try those browsers or an anti-detect browser like GitHub - zhom/donutbrowser: Simple Yet Powerful Anti-Detect Browser 🍩 · GitHub . Might have better luck against fingerprinting as well as not being harassed by captchas.

Although I don’t like the centralized nature of Cloudflare, other than that I couldn’t ask for a better company to run half the web. They support free speech, allow tor users, and don’t make you train Waymos and suck away millions of hours from humanity like Google’s captcha does. They also offer generous free plans for website hosters.

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Why should Cloudfare—or any “gatekeeping” web service with so much power — be trusted?

When you visit a Cloudflare protected site, your HTTPS connection ends at Cloudflare’s server. Cloudflare then decrypts your transmitted data, inspects it, then re-encrypts it and forwards it to the actual website.

Cloudflare holds the TLS certificate and is able to read everything as plaintext, including your passwords, form fields, etc.

After Snowden brought NSA’s PRISM to light, it would be surprising if the NSA is not harvesting the traffic passing through Cloudflare’s servers and have placed them under a gag order, like they have previously done with Google, Apple, Microaoft, etc.

For everyday users, escaping State-sponsored surveillance and maintaining security against State actors is next to impossible at this point, which is why I’m getting close to giving up the various Inconveniences that come with using GOS, and just switching to an iPhone with lockdown mode as my daily driver.

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UPD: Tor browser seems to be blocked by shitflare too.

proof

They will just force me to go through Camoufox or simmilar.

But, seriously, shitflare will get from me only middle finger.

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Cloudflare isn’t to blame for site administrators wanting to block bots. It would probably take only a second to switch it off.

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It shouldn’t be a user problem. Just hire human mods or shut down business. Period.

And shitflare must NOT use so agressive detections that cause false positives. Why not regular captcha? Or PoW?

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Given that 90% of bots and crawlers ignore voluntary guidelines like robots.txt, having alternative measures in place is beneficial.

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No problem on Tor Browser on https://1337x.to, which has under attack mode on.

I prefer Cloudflare on Tor over reCaptcha, because there are no visual challenges and it always lets you in. Both don’t work without JS so not a good option for Tor focused websites.

If website owners want to block Tor, it’s not Cloudflare’s fault.

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Strange. Can you try:

apkmirror.com

?

It seems on that this extension can help, but it looks shady.

Also it indeed stopped “arguing” on my laptop Tor, but still “argue” on mobile Tor. Well, not so big problem but still.

Fingerprinting should be banned by law. Like GDPR.

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Yep it worked fine. This time I needed to click the box, but took like 3 seconds.

100%

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Check out cloakbrowser. It tricks cloudflare and recaptcha into letting you through with no clicks.

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Lots of issues with Proton VPN with IP’s from certain locations.

This may be why.

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Never experienced this with Mullvad and Tor browser

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