CHAT CONTROL 2.0 THROUGH THE BACK DOOR – Breyer warns: “The EU is playing us for fools – now they’re scanning our texts and banning teens!”

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I was just about to start a thread on this news.

TL;DR of the new package:

  1. Supposedly voluntary scans become mandatory via “risk mitigation measures

  2. Not just images, but also private chat texts are to be searched by AI

  3. Age verification requirement. Makes anonymous e-mail and messenger accounts impossible

TAKE ACTION:

(If you did it before, do it again.)

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forces providers to scan all messages, including private, end-to-end encrypted content

outlaws anonymous communication

digital house arrest

ban minors from installing software … such as WhatsApp, Instagram, and … Roblox.

Jesus fucking Christ.

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what hell is it …..

I see none send the article so I share it in there

This is getting pretty orwellian. It seems it can only get worse from here.

Btw, is this the law that compelled Proton to move its services to Norway?

Also, how do you think this would effect things like e2ee messengers like Signal or Session? Does this effectively ban e2ee altogether because they will be required to read the messages?

Signal and Session would just drop off the EU market and it would likely be delisted from apps like the Play Store and App Store at best, at worst the ISPs also block signal and session which then you can bypass with Tor or VPN

Signal also has a built in Proxy but Molly’s Tor approach is just way better

Speaking of Molly, I heard that they are trying to make their own decentralized infrastructure but the client still being based off signal, if true it would be huge.

I like what Molly has done, but I still prefer Session for various reasons. I just wish they could come together and Session would reimplement the perfect forward secrecy, tor/orbot for clearnet connections, and RAM shredding then it would be perfect in my eyes. The underlying protocol of Session I still view as superior, especially considering how the Amazon Web Services outage took down Signal just a few weeks ago. Surprised this hasn’t been talked about more here.

A quick search shows that this post is already available: Chat Control Must Be Stopped, Act Now! :hugs:

Very relevant info from Mullvad:

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Wooooooow, soooo good. :rofl::rofl:
Thanks for the share!

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Wait, what?!!

I had no idea the Dude Where’s My Car actor started (or catalysed, at the very least) this shit! What a twat!!

No wonder Mullvad based the video off that scene in the movie. Nice colour grading, btw.

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(Post-edit: This was more of a side tangent to an imagined sentiment that you may not even hold, rather than a direct response to you.)

Descriptively/factually speaking, I suppose this is true. Proposing a law of this nature reflects that the norms are changing, even if the law isn’t formally approved. The level of threats to privacy that follows from this can only get higher and higher as time goes on. That is why there is no longer, as a rough example, an American Wild West anymore.

But society is always contingent on its people. If anyone thinks otherwise, they have abandoned all hope in favor of accepting a dystopian reality they themselves have facilitated. So I don’t think it’s helpful to only answer what-is-the-case questions. Some people who read this thread may mix up what-is-the-case answers (“it can only get worse from here”) with what-ought-we-do attitudes (“there is nothing we can do”).

We should always explicitly ask what-ought-we-do questions in order to prevent people from mixing up the two. Or rather, we should ask what-ought-to-be-the-case questions, which then begs the how-do-we-get-there questions.

Great video too!

I can’t believe ChatControl is back!

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This is brilliant!

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Yep! This blog post and the video should be shown to all voting for this before the vote when or if it comes to it.

We also need more privacy companies making ads and other things advocating against this in a more tangible manner.

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It seems that we have won again!

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Fantastic!

But the fight continues so let’s not forget or take this for granted.

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