Bluesky thoughts

Everyone should be aware that all posts, likes, comments, blocks and follows are public on bluesky, even more so than Twitter. There is no privacy.

DMs are also not E2EE, and thus visible to Bluesky.

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I think it will end up failing similar to the other Twitter alternatives (e.g. Threads, Mastodon, Pleroma, Nostr, Misskey, Truth Social, Gab) or any of the many Reddit alternatives (e.g. Lemmy, Kbin, Aether, Voat, Poast) or any of the Facebook alternatives (even Google+ failed!)…

The reason for that (a) people are generally lazy and don’t want to switch if they don’t have to, (b) most people remain unconvinced when the competing product isn’t really that much different or better, and (c) the network effect means that even those that are early adopters of a new platform will get tired if most of the action happens elsewhere.

Finally, 50 million Ned Flanders all being REALLY nice to each other (or else!) on Bluesky will never break out or make culture. When it comes to internet content people choose the junk food – the insults, the hate, the drama – every time. And X (the everything site), Tiktok, and Instagram will still have a monopoly on ā€œcan you believe they’re saying this???ā€ type stuff that actually breaks through and grabs eyeballs.

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I think this is an expectation issue…

Some of the alternatives you are calling a failure, are active and have millions of users.

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Just like…Twitter?? Main page in Twitter is a ā€œFor youā€ feed based on algorithm and a ā€œFollowingā€ feed with the posts from people you follow in chronological order.

Edit: correction: Twitter actually shows what you want to read. All of it. Bluesky is curating even your chronological-order feed with heavy censorship.

[citation needed]

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That’s why I see Elon Musk’s and his trolls’ tweets though I have no interest or like them.

Do we at least agree that something like Bluesky will always be more secure than something like Mastodon?

No? Can you elaborate?

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I apologize for the misunderstanding. To clarify, my original post was actually about how funding can impact the security of a platform.

Another nice blog post about Bluesky:
https://canolcer.com/post/thoughts-on-bluesky/

TL:DR
It is way better than Twitter, but can easily go downhill like Twitter did.
No safeguards for the users.

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I don’t know… there wasn’t as much excitement for all of those, but this is a pretty subjective feeling. Threads grew way higher, but just because of exposure from Facebook.

There’s been around 1M users per day joining in the past week. Now nearly at 21M

20 million users, while significant, is also well behind Threads (275 million) and X (500 million)

My hope is that Bluesky steal some of the power of platforms like X have.

Indeed. You can’t even private your account if some crowd starts targeting you — and let’s be honest, it’s going to happen sooner or later. Best you can do is deactivate your account and hope for the best. And that’s not to mention other privacy problems the platform which can’t be addressed due to the nature of platform.

I’ll say this though, it’s the best twitter alternative yet with its curation and all; perhaps it’ll have its year or two of hayday before it goes downhill like every other platform ever.

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Bluesky:

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As you can see from the post above Bsky has really nice moderation settings (and there’s more).

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These are post interaction settings, not sure how they’re relevant to the ability of not being able to lock my account.

Twitter has these too, not my point

You can’t even block people on X anymore. You can merely just hide them - meaning they will still see your posts.

Honestly after the Twitter Files scandal my biggest wishlist feature with any new social media platform is that it has robust censorship protection.

This is where self-hosting decentralisation often fails (see Mastodon’s echo chamber networks who don’t federate with each other) and where blockchain-based decentralisation is a much better fit.

For one see the endless complaints about federated identity on Mastodon, this sort of thing basically requires a blockchain in order to do it trustlessly whilst decentralised.

Having all public posts on an immutable ledger also means that censorship on desktop-based clients is much more difficult, as it’ll always be possible to modify the client to view all messages. This sort of platform can then also have a separate E2EE private messaging layer (e.g. utilising Matrix), whereas Bluesky currently only has unencrypted DMs and moderation in them too.

Bluesky currently brings little new to the table and it’s tech stack has too many weak points for censorship so I doubt it’ll topple X any time soon.

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bluesky is the same

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I agree. What about Nostr?

Nostr (acronym for Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays) is an open protocol for decentralized message transmission, with the intention to be able to resist internet censorship[2] while maintaining session integrity.