Beeper (Universal Chat App)

Beeper is a unified messaging platform that integrates multiple chat services including Whatsapp, Signal, and RCS. Recently, the app enabled direct on-device connections to messaging networks, eliminating the need for their cloud to sync to chat apps.

Chat history is stored e2e in the cloud and their business model seems to be based on selling subscriptions.

What do you think of this service?

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Avoid.

Care to elaborate? I’m sure they collect some telemetry but for those of us with only a few friends on Signal it seems like a good way to declutter

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Thanks for offering helpful information in a kind and respectful way

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Use it myself.

Works quite well for getting chats into one place.

Ideally more people need to get with the times and get onto signal rather that being stuck in the past with Facebook/whatsapp

Only thing is that as others have pointed out, is that you are trusting a 3rd party to your chats but then you are forced to use Facebook anyhow so it’s not too bothering

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I sincerely apologize for that response. I wasn’t in a good mood but that is no excuse.
I’ll try again:
The usage of Beeper, even in the on-device mode, is still a breakage of trust the trust of yourself and your contacts by introducing a third-party.
You have to expect this third-party to (re-)implement all of the existing security measures that the original app does and hope they stay in sync.
Even if you don’t trust say Facebook, they likely did do their encryption correctly and that can’t be said for a third-party like this.
As this app is a bit different compared to say Molly which just forks the official client and makes changes on top, Beeper on the other hand is reverse engineering the implementations for their own implementations which is inherently error prone.
Furthermore even if they have a seemingly clear business model right now, that can always change in the future, especially given the large amount of $$$ invested so far, and there should be no reason to trust them with such sensitive data.

And again, Signal is (nearly entirely) open-source, using Beeper to interact with Signal is just not a great idea.

But you might ask “Didn’t we have tools like this in the past like Pidgin?”. Yes, but those services back then were all much similar and simpler protocols, and encryption wasn’t really a thing back then so it was far easier to implement.

I’ll re-iterate again, just because you’re having to use one bad company doesn’t mean you should subject yourself and your contacts to additional bad companies. This is a very bad outlook.

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I’m not so sure this is true. While it is certainly true that it can’t literally be as secure, in my testing connecting WhatsApp and Signal, all Beeper does is use both of those apps’ existing sync solutions. For example, I used Signal’s Linked Device feature in set up.

Idk, for the layperson, it seems like a solid solution.

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Connecting via the linked device feature is irrelevant to how they’re reimplementing protocol, that is just how they’re binding to your account.
All my points still stand.

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Works OK, but Signal isn’t well integrated. They use the linked devices feature, which is convenient but as result you can’t call people. They could develop their own fork of Signal and integrate it inside, but that could be costlier and uncertain.

I do use Beeper, but I would link to this post as a caveat:

Their privacy policy isn’t great. I’ll switch eventually.

It seems pretty standard stuff. They don’t share it with advertisers or others. They have Sentry tracking but no Google or Facebook third-party tracking which is good.

I mean, it is a 3rd party anyway.
So if you don’t mind your WhatsApp/Discord/Twitter DMs to be public, then feel free to use it. It is actually quite practical to have everything in 1 place and makes it very nice to use.

If it’s for private topics, keep the messaging apps to a minimum (preferably one, like Signal) and skip the middlemen like Beeper. You’ll never know what they do with your credentails/API keys.

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I don’t know, this statement is pretty broad and cover pretty much any use case:

Service Providers. We may share your information with third parties that perform services for us (“Service Providers”) who perform services for us or on our behalf and require access to such information to do that work. We use Service Providers for payment processing, security, network management, and cloud storage, as well as other Service Providers.

Might as well write, we may share your info (Identifiers, Commercial information, Internet or other electronic network activity information, Geolocation data, Audio, electronic, visual or similar information and Inferences we make) with anyone we deem necessary.

beeper discussion is back on the menu?
weird but ok

I know a friend who uses it and loves it
and I have trie to urge them to use the signal app for signal but safe to say beeper has made them to be dragged away, ugh.

but anywho, unless you are forced to use whatsapp or meta apps or other messengers like it, I don’t think I recommend it to anyone, maybe you can use it to get the “normie’s” messaging apps declutterred while allowing room for signal but that’s about as far as I would go for recommendations.

It doesn’t cover sharing for ads or profiling. The key phrase is ‘who perform services for us or on our behalf’. So think cloud services for example.

Just to be clear, I don’t think we should recommend it.

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It will be probably not a recommendation but I wonder if it could be a better client replacement for those who still need to use Whatsapp to avoid at least their embedded AI and trackers.

Their android app has some trackers, but you can use any matrix client instead

I mean you are trusting automattic with metadata or otherwise data coming in transit.
but yeah that was my point, if you’re forced to use say whatsapp this is very viable. And hey if im being honest id trust them more than meta I guess

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yep it is self hostable or replicable.

but especially in the area of “normies”, where the argument is, declutter your apps using it and should allow them space for say signal, yes beeper would undermine signal’s security, though I guess it is mitigated with on-device support as of June 2025 which is lovely?

but honestly again in “normie” context I consider that a win over not chatting on signal

I just tried it on GOS and it crashes immediately triggering a memory tagging error. :weary_face:
Not a good start.