That’s why I buy used pixels. Zero money for g**gle. (Yes I know, buying a pre-owned device isn’t as secure, but it’s a tradeoff I’m willing to make for what I perceive to be low risk.)
Nah I honestly do appreciate people being respectful enough so you can give people the comfort they need.
We have to realize that there will always be the one or two or more (especially in this forum) being very critical or something like that but this should never deteriorate someone from responding to especially constructive criticism, feedback and more like that.
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I think you’re succumbing to sunk cost fallacy. The money is gone to Google already, not yours but OG buyers’.
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The only valid counter argument I can think of is that Google doesn’t count it as a unit and it only basically transfers from one owner to another, but even then above applies
is buying a pair of docs from a thrift store contributing money to doc marten’s? no. you have no power over whether someone else bought the phone already. once it enters the resale market, zero dollars are going to google. you could make a somewhat valid argument that a product with a strong resale value is slightly increasing the value of the original product (like toyota or honda), but gos is a very small product and is not doing this.
You said no more money to Google. What I think you actually meant but did not say this explicitly is no more (new) money to Google with sale of another device.
There is a slight difference.
Yes that’s fair. From an economic standpoint the fact that gos only runs on pixel phones might direct like a few hundred thousand a year to google since a lot of people don’t care about giving money to google and will buy a new pixel. I’d argue that isn’t the fault of gos though, and is more indicative of the fact that not everyone cares about boycotting google and many people just want privacy. If every single gos user bought a used pixel (i realize this isn’t an option for everyone since it is a small risk), google would be getting indirectly (essentially through a small bump to brand awareness) a much, much, much smaller amount (basically nothing).
assuming only 10k sales a year with a random split I pulled out of my bum:
- Pixel 10 Pro: $1000 * 1000
- Pixel 10: $800 * 4000
- Pixel 9a: $500 * 5000
(1000×1000)+(800×4000)+(500×5000) = $6.7m
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Edit: The post was moved out (why @KevPham 
) from the original thread, but since almost all my questions are related to NovaCustom, I’ll edit just to @wessel-novacustom
Has Proton in any way helped out NovaCustom / iodéOS, or any of the related projects?
This is a weak argument. For customers for whom the Google hardware is a redline, they’d rather flash SailfishOS on their devices, not a multi-million line software authored by the said “enemy”.
Besides, folks using GrapheneOS (250k active GrapheneOS installs from what I read on their forums) “feeding” Google by buying Pixels is a tall claim when their quarterly revenues are $100bn+ dollars.
Niice. Reminds me of StarBooks. You ship internationally?
You could consider cold emailing Nirav Patel, founder at Framework Computer,[1] and Luis Rossmann at the Rossmann Repair Group. I’m planning to meet few folksfrom Framework Computer in Jan 2026, & I can suggest your project for their sponsorship fund?
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fair. i slightly underestimated my back-of-napkin math. but still…$7 million almost literally does not matter to google. it’s like when i leave pennies behind at the supermarket. and also, i wish most people would buy used.
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but giving that money (instead) to a small EU-based, privacy- and right-to-repair-focused company (that shares its profits downstream with foss firmware, and privacy-focused OS devs) matters a lot
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edit: removed note about replicant.
Calyx took in $6.682m in 2024 and $7.813m in 2023: Calyx Institute - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
Both are now dead in my opinion.
Anyone have numbers on how much Purism received especially given they were charging as much as $2000 a unit?
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When was Calyx Dead may I ask?
Because Calyx didn’t die, to put it into graveyard wording, it’s in stalling
The founder, lead developer, and second developer all left.
The founder has also been radio silent.
You’re right.
However, just because one or a couple did not work out, doesn’t mean a new entrant can’t make it work making different choices?
Neeva is dead now. But Kagi is not. Some work out and some don’t.
Well I wouldn’t necessarily consider it dead, more stalling (maybe indefinitely, maybe not)
I would consider dead if they file bankruptcy or everyone leaves (and likely leads to bankruptcy)
But in this case, Nova, is already making poor choices in my opinion.
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Replicant had $400K yearly? Or like, total?
Calyx realistically has no excuse financially-speaking, but their whole situation and organization is weird as hell to me so whatever.
This is a strange place compared to the rest of the internet, can’t blame people too much for the typical Reddit PR reply. (Maybe blame them a little if they can’t subsequently adapt lol)
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correction, it was $200k, which is still in reserves
it’ll probably go towards FSF’s LibrePhone project
I’ll admit it wasn’t the best example.
A little old but in 2023 they received 9 million in sales
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