Apple accused of silencing workers, spying on personal devices - REUTERS

https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-accused-silencing-workers-spying-personal-devices-2024-12-02/

This is probably being too optimistic but it would be really great if this convinced Apple that iOS needs actual Work Profiles or separate user accounts :smile:

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the company requires employees to install software on personal devices that they use for work

This really irks me. Apple of all places supposedly doesn’t have enough devices to give out to their employees?

I would NOT use my private devices for work (if I had do install software) and MOST CERTAINLY I would never install any “employer spyware” on them.

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I would just leave my phone in the car and leave the management to figure out how to contact me when I am not in my desk.

Or maybe bring a Graphene OS phone. Oh I dont have Playstore to install your crap. Or better yet those feature Nokia phones with absolutely no way to install crap.

Also, jeez a trillion dollar company cant even be bothered to provide communication devices. Even the corrupt government provides communication devices.

@jonah its alreaDY doable :slight_smile: when you log out of (currently logged in) iCloud account, your settings, apps, apps data etc are saved/backed up to your iCloud, and once you relog, all your data is synced back to your device.

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Wow that sounds like a lot of fun to do before and after work every day lol

There is built-in app called Shortcuts. Its very handy in cases like this.

It always amazes me how you always find a way to defend Apple no matter what they do.

Like Jonah said, this is completely unrealistic and not fun for everyone to do.

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According to MacRumors, he said he was offered an Apple-owned device, but he instead chose to use his personal device:

Bhakta says Apple allowed him to choose to use an Apple-owned iPhone or a personal ‌iPhone‌ for work, and when he chose his personal phone, Apple installed an eSIM and VPN, and required him to use his personal ‌iCloud‌ account to collaborate with colleagues.

Source.

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Normal behavior, I fail to see any wrongdoing on Apple part. Many employers do this = gives you a choice and if you choose to use your priv device, they add whats called business profile and force you to use it for work-related things…

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I assume that if he did choose Apple’s iPhone he would have been able to create a new Apple Account to be used strictly for work. I can’t blame Apple for this. They couldn’t spy on personal devices if their employees were given the option to use an Apple-owned devices and chose it instead of their own. If not all of them were given that option, then that would be an issue, especially for a company that actually creates the devices they want their employees to use.

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Well that shifts the blame back to the employee then

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I think some might miss the broader picture here. How can a company that supposedly care about Privacy do the exact thing they say they despise to their own staff?