There won’t be any management required with this one. And that could be a reason. You are commenting like you’re claiming something to be absolutely true. I don’t find it a right way to engage.
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It is the truth. You cannot sell a browser to anyone, just because they debloated their own thing. It is like selling a car with many features which no one wanted, then selling the very same car with extra price while removing these features, because customers complained about those extra features for years.
As for companies, considering Brave is using same baseline as Chromium on top of their own bloatware, you simply cannot sell it. Maybe their marketing and sales team have different ideas, but you cannot sell it to major corps, because they are already deep in MS or Google solutions.
And why would law firms want it? You can configure how you can control your data on enterprise products. Privacy policies and ToS are also different for business products. I think you are thinking from a consumer perspective.
I just want to say that when AI costs are fully deductible, it’s quite normal for me that Opus has cost several hundred a month. So I’m not surprised at all if this goes through too.
First, speak for yourself only.
Second, what makes you an authority to say all this as fact and objective truth with all that you’re saying?
Third,
Perhaps you can’t. Again, speak for yourself only.
Of course I am. I am thinking about it holistically.
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This is a false equivalence. Brave isn’t trying to sell this version to everyone, the base browser is completely free, users haven’t paid a thing for the product. If you want an accurate analogy, imagine a company handing you the keys to a free rental car that’s plastered with ads to cover the costs. If you want to drive that same car without the ugly billboards, you have to actually pay the rental fee. People gladly pay for debloated services every single day. Free ad blockers exist, but people still happily shell out money for YouTube Premium. Again, if you’re not the targeted demographic, that is completely ok. But you need to understand, some users are that demographic, and that is totally ok. This is not some major scam or rip off at all.
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Similarly, I view this along the lines of many DIY projects where the creator will offer the schematics/source files for free, but for a price will produce a pre-made version for supporters.
I think it is important to step back and evaluate the value of what is being disabled, and the value of the effort that would go into manually disabling these settings, when we discuss if the, to my knowledge one time price for a web browser.
I think this is more than simple disabling things. We can disable things. Brave Origin simply removes the option/feature/functionality for folks to have a the “clean” simple browser people want. There is a difference here.
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Well the thing is, everything about this product seems to point towards it being intended for enterprise. This can’t be made with hardcore privacy advocates in mind because it’s free on Linux (and pretty much any hardcore privacy advocate will be using Linux unless they are unable to for some specific reason), the features Brave Origin exclusively has seems to align with the needs of enterprises the most (disabling unwanted features), the pricing will not make sense for the average person but does seem to align with pricing for enterprises, and outside of a few twitter posts by the Brave CEO, there has not been much attempts at marketing this upcoming product. So the only logical conclusion that I can come to is that this is made for enterprises.
Also, enterprises do spend a ton of money on tech products all the time. For example, Microsoft 365 Business Premium costs $22 per user PER MONTH. Using your example of 330k employees, that is already $7,260,000 per month. This plan is paid yearly, so it will cost your corporation $87,120,000 per year, which already greatly exceeds the costs of paying for Brave Origin once (because Brave Origin seems to be a one time purchase). Yet, I’d doubt any serious corporation would genuinely suggest switching to a different free office suite anytime soon.
So if corporations can pay that much YEARLY for Microsoft Office, I think they are more than capable of paying that fee once to use Brave Origin, especially if Brave Origin is able to offer benefits such as enhanced privacy and security in comparison to other browsers.
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yeah I agree, I was mostly trying to simplify my statement for analogy there.
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then you shouldn’t speak about how enterprises work and decide about their apps.
I am working for one of the major IT companies in the world, and I know how my company operates, how my clients operates, and how other major players in the IT market operates. Also, I am not working as a low level employee.
Again, you are thinking as a consumer. Enterprise level is totally different.
@hydrogenperoxide M365 Premium is targeted for SMBs, not Enterprise. We have M365 E5 for all the employees. I am not saying we are not able to pay few millions for Brave, I am saying we will not pay for Brave, because it is not compliant with the security policies. It is easy to manage Edge or Chrome, because they are already integrated into Intune, AAD/AD, System Configuration Manager, etc. Our DLP tools can easily recognize these browsers and their contents. Brave on the other hand, used by consumers and privacy enthusiasts.
Blocking ads and trackers, or using Tor or web3 were not the goal of the companies. Security and compliance is the main goal, as well as data control.
I am not saying we are not able to pay few millions for Brave, I am saying we will not pay for Brave, because it is not compliant with the security policies. It is easy to manage Edge or Chrome, because they are already integrated into Intune, AAD/AD, System Configuration Manager, etc. Our DLP tools can easily recognize these browsers and their contents.
Thanks for clarifying, I misunderstood what you were trying to say.
Brave Origin released.
https://support.brave.app/hc/en-us/articles/38561489788173-What-is-Brave-Origin
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Just watched the video from Techlore.
Before buying, you should note that the code is only eligible for 10 activations. That is 10 ‘cumulative’ activations, not 10 simultaneously active sessions. Which means if you use the same code 10 times (e.g., PC format, browser reinstallation, etc), that 60$ code is expired and can no longer be used for activation.
Truly a horrible design. The very fact that they require money for ‘debloating’ a “privacy-focused browser” is already more than obnoxious.
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Of course it requires money, the question is why do you think they should allow you to use it for free?
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Technically Brave does offer Brave Origin for free if you are using Linux.
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Linux desktop 
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It looks like they clarified that. For the time being, you can contact support and get any key removed and reactivated to use again. They are currently working on implementing a method of letting you do it on any of your devices, so you can just deactivate, and reactivate on something else as you please.
Being paid is fine. Cryptomator, Bitwarden, and many VPNs all have pain plans.
Unlike those listed above, Brave doesn’t offer ‘additional’ features for paying. Instead, they remove unnecessary ones. In this case, what makes Brave different from Youtube requiring YT premium to skip ads? Can they still be called ‘privacy respecting’?
Edit) Even YouTube offers extra features(watching offline, background stream, YT Music) for extra paying. Getting less for paying more is absolute nonsense.
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I wouldn’t exactly call them unnecessary. Just because you don’t find them useful doesn’t mean others do not. As a matter of fact, I kind of miss being able to pop out Leo and ask for a webpage summary.
A lot of people have a really big hangup on wanting a chrome browser that is nothing but just the browser. And for obvious reasons, they don’t want to go with unGoogled chromium. Or a hobby project fork. And they’ve gotten a lot of feedback over the years that people are willing to pay to have those features removed in an official form.
The reason they’re not adding features defeats the entire purpose. People want this browser because they want the features removed. Also, not really sure what this has to do with them suddenly not being called privacy respecting?
Potentially relevant: Techlore did a pretty good video with his first impressions and detailing who Brave Origin may be for and who it probably isn’t for.
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