What are they doing taking away speedreader?
I think youâre playing with words a bit here, the features they are removing are necessary to them which is why they are charging. We have a choice now, itâs better than not having a choice imo.
Its the same principle, adopted by many providers.
Yes if they are privacy respecting. Are you claiming they arenât?
Is Origin actually using less RAM? because Iâve already removed those features?
Pretty unscientific test, simply opening one tab in Brave and Brave Origin Nightly side by side to view their ram usage in KDE system monitor. The difference seems pretty negligible, for modern systems, with Brave coming in at roughly 295 MiB and Brave origin coming in at roughly 250 MiB.
I would like to note that, from my understanding, there is an important difference between disabling features in Brave vs using Brave Origin where those features a have been removed from the core code of the browser itself and not compiled vs simply disabled at runtime with the code still living on your device.
We should also compare it with Helium and see which performs better.
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Here are some clarifications:
- You can renew more activations beyond the ten they offer. You need to contact support. Supposedly they didnât find another way to prevent abuse and purchase reuse, while also having a system that respects privacy/anonymity. This is what they claim, but I think a system similar to Mullvadâs â where a user account code is enough to manage devices privately/anonymously, without requiring an email or any personal data â would work just as well.
- There are two types of Brave Origin: one downloaded directly as Brave Origin, and one upgraded from regular Brave. If you upgrade from regular Brave, you can choose which services/features you want to keep, such as Speed Reader.
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Btw doesnât WSL support running Linux GUI apps? For Windows users it might be worth to try if they can install Brave Origin in there and use it from there to avoid the fee.
There probably is also a way to compile it yourself or something.
$60 is pretty steep to get less features, seems like the wrong way around, especially because there is no guarantee they wonât worsen the deal eventually.
A browser requires regular updates, you canât just use the version you bought and be happy forever.
That said I also donât think they should restrict features for the âfreeâ version, so even if itâs pretty expensive I will probably try it out later, got more than enough value out of brave until now to justify the cost.
WSL support for GUI apps exists but is not something I would want to use to install a graphical web browser with.
Last I checked, a couple years ago, the GUI apps installed via WSL would lag considerably, this may depend hardware as well, and there is also the issue that WSL apps donât easily have default access to the host filesystem. So if yo tried to download something via a WSL installed browser this files would go to ~/Downloads, and not C:/Users/user/Downloads
I think youâre missing the point of Brave Origin. If such is your thinking, then itâs not for you. And thatâs okay.
This post is literally about a wish for a clean browser and there are many who would want this.
Plus itâs $60 for 10 browser activations for life. Thatâs $6. Thatâs great value to me for all that you use your browser everyday.
Pleased to have this as an option. Given a lot of the bloat is how the company makes money, it seems odd that people would expect a free browser without that revenue stream. I agree with the post above that 10 separate concurrent activations for $60 seems perfectly reasonable.
I was surprised to see the usage ping on by default, would expect all telemetry to be off.
I was surprised by this also, and hopefully this is disabled by default once Brave Origin is fully released, but I canât really blame them for leaving it on in a nightly build.
No you misunderstand, I like a clean browser too, just found it kinda funny to pay to have less things in it.
Most people will NOT be installing brave on 10 different devices so you are either going to be overpaying if that is your thinking or sharing your license with other people, in which case the deal is fine (and as said, I will probably buy it too, though do not intend to share it)
What I wanted to say with my post is that a lifetime deal is a bit risky for a browser, you depend on them actually honoring it because you should not be using an outdated browser.
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Well, anything that people want from a company will be eventually monetized. In this case, I really wanted it and will pay for it when itâs more stable.
But for folks who donât want the extra fluff and want it for free, there is always Helium that comes with uBO preinstalled by default but you may not get the other fingerprinting protections and whatnot that is somewhat unique to Brave.
They couldâve implemented limiting simultaneously active sessions just as any VPN providers do.
If that is somehow technically impossible, applying limitations to the number of activations over a certain time period (twice per week, 5 times per month, etc) is also an option.
Simply setting X numbers of activation per lifetime seems to be the worst way of preventing abuse. And having to contact support every time for additional activation is way too much of a hassle.
I agree. Also Iâd much rather pay for a single user with an ongoing annual subscription.
How much would you be comfortable with that subscription being? Further consider that a subscription could easily surpass the price of the lifetime purchase of $60 within only a year or two.
Though also of note, it does appear that Brave does intend to introduce a subscription option for brave origin. See: https://support.brave.app/hc/en-us/articles/38561489788173-What-is-Brave-Origin
we also plan to offer a monthly subscription option in the near future.
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The fact that they only offer to pay by credit card with Stripe is the biggest joke of all time, coming from a company that shouts to anyone who will listen that we should create a cryptocurrency economy with their crappy sh*tcoins in the Brave Wallet.
I would have been willing to pay even more than $60 to get Brave Origin, but only if itâs in cryptocurrency. I invite you to refer to the Threema system which works much better than that of Brave and which offers many more guarantees of anonymity.
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Some early Origin users have asked how Brave can maintain user privacy while requiring a purchase ID (either from a Brave premium account or from the App Store / Play Store).
Brave uses a blind token protocol based on Privacy Pass, which decouples payment identity from service usage. These privacy-preserving subscription credentials allow the browser to verify you have a valid purchase of a premium product (like Origin) without learning anything about you.
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I havenât thought about that, I only use brave on one device, maybe with brave origin I would use it on two. Iâd need to take another look at the benefits but if convinced I would pay $5ish per user per year. After five years or so, I will be paying more than lifetime users. However, on the flip side, I might only use it for two years.
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