Why I Use Uruky, a Private Search Engine

You can see it in the FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions - Uruky , but I’ll also paste the answer here:

For web search, Uruky currently integrates Mojeek, Marginalia, EUSP (Ecosia/Qwant) (only works with French, German, or English), Linkup, Serper, PriEco, and Uruky Site Search (our own small/indie-web focused index).

For image search, Uruky currently integrates Pixabay and Serper.

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Hi, it looks nice. The captcha is long but not overly annoying and if it does indeed give access for a few hours that would be very reasonable.

There are however a few quirks/bugs:

  • Incomplete page titles (cut-off)
  • No page titles, just the URL

The first issue is the most annoying.

See example with query “Iran War”

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Hello, I am new to privacy and search engines but I wanted to say I agree with Brn. There should be more positivity towards the developers and different search/privacy tools. Kagi is offering very interesting services and so do many others. I was happy to learn about Uruky because we have another option to pick from. Full privacy can be defined in different ways and not everybody needs full anonymity on the highest level. Different tools are used for different purposes. If we get 1 tool that has it all, aren’t we ending up where we started with one tool ruling us all again (as someone here mentioned)? We need diversity in the tools/search engines. If you need full anonymity just pick a different tool. Uruky and all the other developers are at the forefront of technologies and honestly deserve a praise. And some extra subscriptions. Discussing should also happen as well.

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Thanks for this. I’m happy to try and understand what’s up, there, since this is something I haven’t seen before.

I’d need to know what was your search query (and filters) and provider(s) used, to take a look at the results. There’s a setting to enable a “send feedback” button at the bottom of the results page which prepares an email with a URL that has all these params encoded, if it makes things easier.

Thanks!

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If you’re curious, I published a page about threat models for search and Uruky in Threat models: when Uruky is not enough - Uruky where these things should be clearer. If you see something wrong or missing/unclear, I’d appreciate being told! Thanks.

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@brn

Question: Is there a trial mode for testing beyond just 1 day without paying, and offering help to improve the service? That way I can set up the default engine.

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@DanielM There isn’t (it’s just for two hours), otherwise bots could more easily abuse it (and searches cost us money), but if you send an email to help@uruky.com (no need to share your account number, we don’t need to know it) we’re happy to give you a voucher for a few days.

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Awesome! Would you consider making it trivial to find on front page with e.g.

image

Had to replace Contact here but basically insert it to the middle. I think that would show you’re proud to communicate it to your users and that you care for their privacy :slight_smile:

( https://tryquiet.org/ is my favorite example of how to do it. They put it before they pitched their product. It looks really professional at the top. I get that you might not want to put it there as it’s clear you want the login to stand out. But if more stuff creeps to that header, please consider adding it.)

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Good idea, I’ve replaced it there, like your suggestion. And yeah, the header is intentionally account-only.

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@brn

Very well. Here’s a brief analysis:

What I liked:

  • Basic interface, straight to the point. No overwhelming UI resembling sci-fi movies or AAA games, neither professional nor flashy colors.
  • Well-organized menus in settings.
  • Useful FAQ section for those looking for relevant info, but the phrase “Can I pay with cash for 100% anonymity?” is extremely exaggerated—I’d recommend updating it to be more honest. 100% anonymity doesn’t exist.
  • Terms of service and privacy policy are standard, but they hurt the quality and coherence of the service with the following words: “You are solely responsible for your use of the service.”
    For example: If the CEO gets bribed and does shady work behind the scenes, the service is responsible—not the legitimate users (they wouldn’t know what’s hidden unless they detect suspicious activity). A correction is recommended.
  • No AI. That’s a step forward in not being infected by what every other company is doing—it’s something I like and I hope they never integrate it.
  • Available in my language, Spanish. Easy to understand.

What I didn’t like:

  • On the main page there are two things:

The phrase that reads along with its context: “What do people say about Uruky?” → it breaks the quality of the interface. I recommend integrating it into the rest of the menus between “Why Uruky” and “Threat models.”

Where it says “Company, Information,” etc. → merge what’s currently floating around into collapsible submenus. This reduces the amount of scrolling on mobile devices.

  • Making comparisons with other engines significantly lowers the quality of the service, and I’ll explain why: being based in the EU or similar doesn’t automatically make a service high quality. I’m not accusing you of being malicious, but you should let the company’s actions speak for themselves. If you claim: “Search privately and without ads.” → let people find that out based on actions, not words. This is fundamental. If you make comparisons, it feels like I’m watching a “services” war and competition just for being based in the EU at minimum.

What’s missing:

  • In search results, it would be great to integrate the date and time of a link if available. This is fundamental because it helps you know when something happened, what it is (by reading the title), what it’s about (topic info), issues (spotting inconsistencies, duplication, or other basic problems), and quality? (whether it’s worth clicking based on visible info without opening the link).

End. For now.

Observation: I did this with a default test account provided by the website.

There you go, free of charge.

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Thank you so much, there’s a lot of valuable information here we’ll certainly incorporate!

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I just used the defaults. Load-up Uruky, pass the captcha and do the search. Originally tested on Brave mobile, confirmed with Firefox desktop now. Mojeek is being used. Query is https://uruky.com/search?il=en&q=Iran+War

Mojeek does also sometimes cut titles, but not as much and you seem to cut it off more. See syde-by-side comparison

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Wow, thanks for the great details, I’ll test and check tomorrow if there’s something we can tweak in the API calls.

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@Encounter5729 : I just fixed the title truncation issue, thank you!

@DanielM : I just tweaked the cash-related FAQ entry and added date information when available (only Mojeek and Serper are providing this, right now), via a new optional setting. Thank you!

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You’re welcome. What I’d like to know is whether you’re going to make any changes to the testimonials on the homepage. If the answer is no, what are the reasons?

This info will help me understand a bit more.

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I didn’t realize there was something in specific you’d like me to answer/address? Let me know if there is, please.

We like the testimonials on the homepage and think they give an important context (they’re not paid pieces and they are honest on the shortcomings of using Uruky vs Kagi or DDG, for example), like the footer and the comparisons. I don’t think we’re saying EU-based is “better” or “safer”, only that it’s something we care about and many customers do as well.

Hopefully that helps!

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If the service becomes available via ProxyStore, I would pick up a subscription and begin using it again.

A feature I quite enjoy from StartPage is the Anonymous View. I suspect it was a lot of work to put together, but it is a nice value-add.

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I will also note that a large part of why I stopped paying for Kagi (and Proton, and Tuta…) is because these services are trying to be an ecosystem of products, rather than create standalone products that speak for themselves. It is always more convenient to centralize things, but that comes with downsides that we see playing out in our physical and digital world every day.

Uruky’s stated dedication to stay as a standalone product (great search—nothing more, nothing less) is a huge green flag for me.

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@brn

No, that’s not it. You’re good.

Alright, I now understand the reason why you left it that way.
But there’s something you should know, and you guys probably aren’t aware of it. Here it is:

Behind those words like “comparisons,” “winning,” etc., pitting your engine against others in one place literally means war. It’s essentially advertising without adding quality or credibility to the service overall—although I do acknowledge it provides some informational value for people who aren’t familiar with this kind of knowledge.

I’m going to give you a small realistic scene for context: I’m looking for a service that doesn’t have so much copy-paste or feel like a clone similar or identical to other companies (it’s getting harder and harder to find)—fewer repetitions and as original as possible. I come across Uruky, I observe and notice the same thing (comparison, testimonials on the homepage…). Does it add quality, faithfulness, consistency, robustness, and operational reliability? That requires an exhaustive analysis. I make a decision.

I see potential in the service, but it pushes me away, and for the reasons I mentioned before—I can’t recommend a tool like this with these current issues; they’re serious to me.

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Buying vouchers via ProxyStory is coming soon. Hopefully announcing it this week, but it’s not under our control at this point.

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