Umbrel (Server OS)

It’s also incredibly unsecure and doesn’t update the apps as often.

I think this came up before as a different name Start9 Review from Experts? EmbassyOS

I’m not really too keen on “black box” OSes running all manner of containers which I wouldn’t necessarily use. Based on the marketing they assume this is going to rely on something like tailscale to connect.

To me seems like a lot of risk and I’m not really sure who this is for.

I believe that is a different project, but the concerns are probably similar.

Source?

Yes, Start9 is a different project.

I agree. Security wise, it’s probably better to go ahead and install Fedora CoreOS. You will learn a lot more about how to maintain a server and it will also be more secure.

I always strayed away from server OSes like Umbrel, just because I’d rather build my own solution and learn things along the way.

However, if you just want a quick and easy OS to spin up, Yunohost and Cosmos are good security focused alternatives.

I asked about Yunohost and didn’t get a super positive feedback.

Have you tried it?

If someone just want to self host stuff. isnt it better for them to use a ready to go implementation then building they own stuff and probably make lots of security mistakes?

umbrelOS 2.0

We’re not going to be recommending this, as there really isn’t any privacy specific features.

One of the concerns I do have with these docker-made-easy-oses is they’re likely to be deployed and forgotten about, and potentially not updated or used by people who understand very little about what it is they’re installing.