No, maybe not, but it certainly undermines it. E2EE cannot protect against a compromised endpoint, which is fundamentally what chat control is trying to mandate.
Yeah… it’s rough, definitely would not recommend for any sane person.
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It didn’t pass Patrick Breyer: „🇬🇧Again no majority for #ChatControl +++ New Comm…“ - digitalcourage.social
That’s not true. Any law need to be approved by the Parliament and the Council. The commision only proposes laws.
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Thank god. See y’all here again in a month when they try to pass it again.
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We actually agree, but I read “make laws” as in decide & approve laws, whereas you meant “write laws”
I am becoming somewhat confident that it is losing momentum. With the US telco and lawfull access hacks, and this proposal having failed so many times
Also, the next country to take presidency of the concil is Poland, which opposes the text.
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I’m happy that this has failed.
I believe that this shows a good side to the EU… it’s hard for 27 countries to all have - and approve of - the same terrible idea at the same time. The countries can balance out each others’ worst tendencies.
This isn’t the end, but any victory is never the end of having to stand up for privacy.
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Attempting to monitor the population is the dream, I think, of everyone in power, which is why in Europe we’re talking about the digital euro, monitoring social networks (to find out whether what we publish corresponds to what we declare), monitoring Internet browsing and communication, and monitoring people’s movements.
Remember Covid, where everything was controlled? I’m not surprised that these people want to break encryption and monitor everything.
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It’s definitely not making the world a better place to live.
Surprise, surprise
The Commission used targeted advertising based on political opinion to promote ChatControl in the Netherlands. This is illegal.
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I hate brainwashing to make you believe [thing bad for you] is good for you.
I would hope the current Volt Typhoon disaster in the U.S. helps to kill any of these mandated backdoor ideas.
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Before the meeting at least Ireland, Spain, Hungary and Estonia have insisted in mandatory scanning of our chats!
However, Germany new government still opposes the bill Patrick Breyer: "🇬🇧New German government parties do not agree on #…" - digitalcourage.social
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it seems what’s holding them back is Netherlands and Germany which I appreciate.
Politicians should seriously just give up. both of them are not going to accept their bs
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Unfortunately they don’t need approval from all, just 65% (Patrick Beyer makes map of those who support and oppose CC).
But fortunately right now Poland is president of the council, so we are safe until July. They are trying to make a voluntary chat control, which isn’t ideal but is a compromise I am OK with.
There has been no report from Patrick Breyer or netzpolitik on the latest Chat Control discussion, so I assume it hasn’t passed…
Good news I guess
they do need approval from all countries for EU laws like that to pass
if Germany and Netherlands say no, they can’t pass it, simple as that.
(I think the margin is by one country at least saying no is ok but dont quote me on that)
No they don’t see here. It’s 55% of governments representing 65% of EU population. (Wikipedia mentions 4 countries to block proposals, but AFAIK this is very rarely used).
Laws that need unanimous approval I think it’s about exceptional cases like changing the EU treaty.