Should Ente Auth really be recommended? Particularly the E2EE

Hello everyone

I have been looking for a replacement 2FA app since Authy went downhill. Got my codes ready to move into another app. I don’t want to be in the same boat again where privacy and security is a problem so I’m doing more due diligence now. Found this site and like the approach. In terms of MFA, Ente Auth is recommended along with Aegis on the website.

Other places also state Aegis as the defacto standard. Don’t get me wrong I like it but I also like the convenience of a desktop app. This is where Ente seems to be good. What is putting me off is the threads on reddit which granted happened 3 years ago still seem shaky: https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivacyGuides/comments/rjzc9s/compare_cryptee_and_enteio/

The person making the comments seemed to disappear 2 years ago and their last posts are in reference to India (where Ente resides) about leaving up back door access even for end to end encryption: IFF Alarmed Over India’s Move For Backdoor Access To Encrypted Data

It does all seem rather obtuse and not actually concrete on anything. However, even people on the reddit have reservations about Ente Auth being recommended in the v3.17 thread 10 months ago (Can’t link due to limit).

My ultimate question is… am I worrying too much? Everytime I look up what apps people moved to since Authy it’s all “went to ente and been great”.

Thanks for any input

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Personally I use Standard Notes for most of my 2FA needs and then Aegis and 2FAS for a few other specific things. If you’re looking for desktop 2FA Ente is most likely fine, I’d probably be using it myself except I just happened to have a Standard Notes account when migrating from iOS and saw it’s recommended for 2FA by Michael Bazzel so figured I’d use it and it’s been great.

Ente only good for photos, though we don’t have an alternative on iPhones for 2FA

What

The paid standard notes plan has a format for your notes that can be used for 2FA.


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@redoomed1 Thanks for that. I can’t actually see any info on Ente themselves stating they are based in the US. Just about EU data centres.

@securitybrahh Why do you say only the photos aspect is good?

It is as I said in the Reddit post you’ve linked:

This topic is a duplicate of multiple discussions that have already happened here on this forum. Please use the search before posting new questions.

You can trivially discover that Ente Technologies, Inc. is based in the United States:

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/ente-technologies

…as it also clearly states in their privacy policy and ToS.

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Yes, your link says “Dover, Delaware, United States”, but that’s not reassuring. The state of Delaware is a well-known tax haven for foreign companies… Low taxes, very favorable case law for businesses and easy creation of shell companies.

I’m not saying that Ente is one of them, but this argument doesn’t work well in my eyes. Having an address in Delaware does not confirm activities outside India.

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Ente Technologies, Inc. is registered in Wilmington, Delaware, under company number 6668754. This information can be verified through the official Delaware Division of Corporations website. Consequently, Ente is legally subjected to US jurisdiction. However, this does not preclude Ente from conducting operations outside of the United States, nor does Ente assert otherwise. It is well-known that Ente’s development team is based in India.

Desktop operating systems, especially Linux, are a decade behind Android and iOS when it comes to modern privacy and security protections.

While it’s more convenient to have a desktop app, your TOTP seeds are significantly less secure by using one, and you’re also adding a lot of attack surface by having your TOTP seeds on two different devices.

My thoughts on this:


No, you just have been fearmongered by these people on Reddit.

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Please elaborate on why Ente Photos is good and Ente Auth isn’t.

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Can you elaborate? What’s wrong with ente auth?

This is a duplicate of Has Ente resolved issues since this Reddit thread? and GrapheneOS w/ Google vs iOS w/out Google - #13 by Lukas, half the replies here are just referencing both topics.

Please research on our forum before creating duplicate discussions.