Proton Pass vault limitation

Appears I have hit some limitation again. Why restrict this for paid users? Why not let me just create the folders/vaults I need? @Son

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Can I ask how many folders/vaults you created to hit this limit?

Had to count but 50 it seems.

strange limitation to have in place, I hope this is a bug and not intentional limitation, especially for paying customers.

May I ask you if there is any need to have so many vaults ? Is it recommended or something?

I have all my passwords, passkeys, credit cards … in the same vault, is it wrong ?

It’s personal preference, you’re not doing anything wrong.

From my limited time with proton pass, it doesn’t have “folders” so “vaults” are substituting for folders. It would be nicer if vaults had option to have folder in them.

I personally heavily use folders to manage different logins types accordingly. I would totally make two dozen vaults myself if I was using proton pass.

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I just have many passwords and I want to keep them organized. Also clients or different people e.g. I work with so that I can easily delete them or find them.

Also I keep certain things grouped so that I can keep an overview and actually clean up accounts I do no longer need.

No folders/subfolders and no tags
Not added as of today :upside_down_face:
No folder functionality, it doesn’t work at all for me

I have added more vaults over time, so I can see how someone might hit 50. I found a link that explains that Proton Pass only has 50 vaults; just scroll down to the plan comparison: Proton Pass: Pricing & Plans | Proton.

Although I don’t have 50 vaults, I like to separate logins linked to personal identity, from logins that are for anonymous/pseudonymous accounts. I also have a vault with unused aliases ready to go. I created them in advance because I wanted to make sure they were simple.

This shouldn’t matter anymore since Proton Pass has adapted the same policy as SimpleLogin, so aliases will continue to work even if you downgrade to the free plan.

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I hear you, but like I said, the reason I created them in advance has nothing to do with that.
I regularly have to tell people over the phone or in person what my email address is. It is easier for them to understand when my alias uses words like “snooze”, “pond” and “portly” vs “unadorned”, “unedited”, and “neglector.”

That’s why I have a few dozen backup aliases created in advance. So that when I need to give one on the go to a real person, I don’t have to create on the fly and browse through the different random words available until I find one that’s easy to understand orally.

I have a simple name, and you’d be surprised how often I have to spell it out to people over the phone. And often I can’t just say J-O-R-D-A-N. (fake e.g.) because they will still get it wrong. I have to say J like joy, O like orange, R like Red, etc…

It’s the exact same when I have to give an email alias over the phone or in person. Hence, why I created a few in advance with very simple that should not require spelling.

Okay, I thought that by the word ”simple” you meant SimpleLogin, so my mistake there. However, I still don’t know what exactly is preventing you from achieving this with Proton Pass if that is the password manager you’re using. Because with Proton, you can choose the word yourself for your aliases, so the word isn’t completely random. The only places you would get random words are the SimpleLogin website or the Bitwarden’s SimpleLogin integration, so are you using one of these then?

I use Proton Pass for aliases. When you click create alias, you are given 4 options, which are 4 words with 4 different domains. Sometimes amongst those 4 choices, there are simple words to choose from. But sometimes there isn’t, at which point you can close the alias window and open it again to get a new set of words to choose from.

I don’t want to have to play that game when I need a simple alias on the fly. Hence, why I have unused aliases ready to go. If there are no time constraints, I’m happy to play the game, but it’s good to have aliases ready to go.

Which client you’re using because what you’re describing doesn’t sound familiar to me.

When I click create alias, it first asks me to fill in the title, which will then become the prefix unless I click advanced options and change that. So, you should be completely free to choose the word yourself as the alias item would need a name anyway. Also, I have 13 domains to choose from, so you’re in the free plan then? I don’t know, maybe this is a weird limitation in the free plan.

I’m on the paid plan. I primarily use the Proton Pass desktop app. But the process is exactly the same on mobile. Click item > Choose Alias > Click on the cogwheel (advance settings).
You’ll be presented with 4 aliases you can choose from. If you don’t like them, close the window and start the process again to get new words/aliases.

Here are some screenshots.

PS: I haven’t synced my aliases with Simple Login, which is perhaps why I don’t get the additional domains offered by SL. Just for fun, I one time logged into SL on web, to create one single alias to see what their domains were. This is why Proton Pass suggested I sync my logins with SL. I haven’t done it yet, and don’t plan to do it any time soon.

Yeah, my aliases don’t look like that and I think it is because I am syncing my aliases with SimpleLogin and there I have enabled a setting in Aliases and Select the default suffix generator for aliases to use a random combination of letters and digits instead of a random word.

Yeah, I prefer random words.