Proton Pass: A password manager for AI agents | Proton

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I don’t know how to feel about this one. Why? is what I keep asking myself.

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I’ll bet 1000 rupees that:

  1. one of their developers inadvertantly leaked a secret through broad AI agent access
  2. developed this tool to safeguard against it
  3. someone in management found it marketable
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Why not? Moving anything to a fine grained permission model is always good.

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Why AI related though?

They’ll do anything but improve for Linux.

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It’s one of the things companies are looking for in a password manager now, and they probably don’t want to loose potential customers.

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It also leaves the community behind for the improvements and tools they need on unsupported OS like Linux.

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Proton says one thing and then contradicts itself; the inconsistency is striking:

AI agents can automate your most essential tasks, giving you an edge in the workplace or saving you time to do more of what really matters. But getting the maximum benefits often requires access to your private accounts, which is fraught with dangers.

Then the headline reads:

Use your AI agent with confidence

Terrible mistake: Advertising gains ground, privacy and security lose value at Proton AG, more and more.

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I feel like the scientists that founded Proton should be replaced with actual business people who stick with the nature and spirit of open source valuing product experience parity first.

Random upgrades to tools in their suite are not starting to make sense.

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Proton Pass on Linux has feature parity with all the other operating system. There’s nothing for them to improve.

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Impeccable timing:

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It shouldn’t be controversial that there are businesses and people out there who use AI automation and could benefit from this.

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I’m speaking at large - for all Proton products.

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No one is denying the usefulness of anything new they do. But it’s what and how and when they do (aka how they operate) is what I am questioning.

My issue with Proton is against management and operations; their products are rock solid.

I can understand Proton as a company not having the bandwidth, but for all they do, they could have thrown some money at the Linux issue and got some things done faster.

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Linux is a minority of their userbase right now

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No shit. I am well aware. And I’m also aware for why they don’t do it.

Here’s my case for Linux anyway:

  1. The juxtaposed difference in feature parity across all their products is as ridiculous as it has been. And will only continue to grow. This shows lack of focus on their end to develop for all OS people use. The number of people using them notwithstanding.
  2. To me, it’s starting to feel like they have left the community who made them in their early days behind. They receive way too much noise from the “community” but they are not quite as not all are privacy enthusiasts like us here. For some it’s a passive hobby and interest, for many here, we take it more seriously and we care for the smallest of difference in how each tool functions on each OS. I hope I’m not sounding pretentious but is this not the case? This is how I see it at-least.
  3. They want people to use more privacy respecting tools, right? It’s their whole shtick. Then why not make it available and working on privacy respecting OSs too? It’s really starting to feel moronic that they don’t have the robust support and apps for Linux (Proton Pass being the only exception but that’s the SL team building and they operate on a level above Proton considering how well and fast they have developed Pass into one of the if not the best password/credential management tool out there).

Whatever they do, they do well buyt they do it half baked. So their 50% of the app is almost 100% great from a privacy & security POV. But for them to get that remaining 50% up there takes forever. And that’s the main gripe. I’m honestly surprised they are this dense to not see it already. Or if they do, they don’t do anything about it which is even worse.

For fucks sake, they don’t even have Lightning support for BTC yet. They seem to forget that some people often transact and not just store their BTCs.

And finally, more support for Linux will also encourage more people to try and use Linux for good.

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This raises a question: why so many products instead of focusing on the essentials like ProtonVPN for example?

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That’s the million dollar question we all have. It’s perplexing. Hence why I said lack of focus.

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could have thrown some money at the Linux issue and got some things done faster.

Things don’t work like that. 9 women won’t make a baby in a month.

Things take time. They’re also currently hiring Linux people.

Then why not make it available and working on privacy respecting OSs too

You can use VPN on Linux, you can use Pass extensions in every browser. Most Proton services are web-based and can be used in the web browser.

The biggest issue is the Drive client but they’re already working on the SDK and as I said before they’re hiring.

They’ll do anything but improve for Linux.

Also different teams. Proton Pass on Linux has parity with Windows.
A person from the Pass team won’t build Drive or Mail etc.

I understand your frustration and share it but let’s not kid ourselves. Linux is in the minority. It doesn’t make sense business-wise to build for it first instead of Windows.

Also refutes this point:

I feel like the scientists that founded Proton should be replaced with actual business people who stick with the nature and spirit of open source

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I find it funny people forget that proton is a business who wants to make money, first and foremost. If you are presented with two options and one is guaranteed to bring in more money, of course you’ll focus on that.