Proton Mail versus Tuta

What exactly do you mean this? That they encrypt subject lines only between Tuta accounts, or also when you send and receive mail from non-Tuta email providers?

Also, very curious about this. When you say Proton, do you mean Proton’s actual domains (protonmail.com / ch / pm.me, etc…) or are you referring to Proton Pass and Simple Login’s aliases?

Agree with a lot of this. I don’t just want labels, but also star. The ability to star emails is an important feature.

Why is Proton discouraging using from using Bridge?

I use both, but ever since they released their desktop app, I use that mostly.
That said, I think it’s important that if someone has multiple email providers, that they be able to manage all of their emails from a single client. Hence why Proton should continue and improve email client support, not just on desktop but also for mobile.

The Problem with Proton Bridge

My issue with Bridge is related to my issue with Proton’s UI, and it’s that Proton doesn’t have a good system to manage multiple emails. I wish they had copied Skiff Mail’s system, so that when you create more addresses, they automatically have their own inbox and filter.

On Proton, you have to manually create your additional inboxes by creating filters and folders. Moreover, if you also use a Mail client, you won’t instantly know when you receive new emails to your secondary addresses, because you have to look in the folder. Plus you can’t reply with your secondary addresses from Bridge either. Not unless you choose to split your addresses.

Split Address Mode vs Combine Address Mode: Both Have Problems

I tried splitting address mode, so that all my Proton addresses have their own inbox in Thunderbird, but the problem with that is that all your folders get duplicated in each inbox. So if you have a folder that is just for Proton Address 1, it will appear for all your Proton addresses on Thunderbird.

So both split mode and combined mode have issues. Proton needs to fix that. They need to make is so that by default, each Proton address has its own inbox filter. Just like Skiff did.

Personally, I think that Proton should create their own mail client that supports not only Proton, but all other email providers. That’s probably too much to ask, though, and shouldn’t be a priority.

Tuta > Proton for Anonymous Payments

The fact that Tuta indirectly allows anonymous payments via gift cards is a big deal to me. It’s why I’m considering trying it. Proton has no excuse. They don’t have to accept Monero.
But they can sell gift cards on the Proxy Store, which accepts Monero, but also straight up cash! Simple Login in already on the Proxy Store, so there’s literally no excuse!

I personally think that all the privacy services should have anonymous payments via gift cards as an option. If Standard Notes, Notesnook, etc…were on the Proxy Store, it would be amazing!

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I think Tuta’s free plan allows users to only search emails dated less than four weeks old.

Proton goes into detail about their web-app search function here. Is it entirely safe to download an index of messages to our browsers (don’t know where Tuta stores theirs)? Would it be best practise to only do this in an ephemeral browser, such as Mullvad or Tor? Might be slow going because the index would need to be downloaded each time after the browser is closed.

yes but OP is comparing paid plans

Correct, although that is not noted in the title of the thread. Just a helpful pointer for anyone who came here looking to compare the two providers, but only their free plans.

Proton allows bitcoin payments and although it’s not as private as monero but you can use a swap service and it will cost the same unlike tuta’s gift cards that cost 8.5% more

Bitcoin is not anonymous, though. When you buy a gift card, all the money doesn’t go to Tuta. The 8.3% is for the Proxy Store. I personally don’t mind paying it if it means my account is anonymous.

Proton could still offer anonymous gifts cards and have no excuse not to. It would only be one options among various others.

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I never claimed btc is anonymous but i said you can use a swap service xmr to btc and pay anonymously and it will have at worst 1% fees as opposed to more than 8% with Tuta

and ofc both of them accepting xmr payments directly would be better than their current options

Proton is transitioning to non-profit structure:

I think that is a big pro. Tuta may do the same move in the future but right now Proton has that on its side.

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