Your skepticism is normal. The integration was officially announced, and they launched the ProtonPass lifetime package right after that. The team behind Simplelogin is also the creators of ProtonPass. From the start, the alias feature has been a fundamental part of it.
From the announcement blog post:
āPass Lifetime comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee, so you can try it risk-free. If itās not the right fit, reach out to our Support team to request a full refund within that window.ā
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One thing that I forgot to mention is that this offer is awesome for those who are scared to lose their alliases when they decide to cancel their subscription.
With this offer, you get both Proton Pass and SimpleLogin for life, and it will pay off in less than 5 years if we take inflation into account.
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Fair enough, I am assuming that SimpleLogin Premium would count as a Pass Plus Feature.
Let us know if you choose to ask Proton support about it.
Purchased one. Yeah it is pretty expensive, but, I still like this deal.
Firstly I HATE subscriptions so much that I will pay for lifetime offer even if it will be more expensive.
Secondly I always wanted to support Proton (if other good company will have lifetime offer I think I will get it too).
Thirdly Proton has pretty good integration with simplelogin and having unlimited aliases FOREVER is really what I needed.
In addition:
Paid via BTC, waiting for activation (I am not using banks for privacy reasons) and Proton have Proton Wallet now soā¦
In summary:
If you like Proton and want to support it this is good way to do so.
Would it be possible to get this lifetime purchase of Pass Premium + Simplelogin Premium and then later also subscribe to Mail Plus? Or can you then only upgrade to Proton Ultimate?
Sorry if itās a dumb question, I just find their pricing very confusing
Yes, this is possible.
āIt also works like an add-on, so you can have Pass Lifetime but still get any of our other services, like Mail Plus, VPN Plus, as well as any future products and services.ā
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The only issue is if you end up upgrading to something like Ultimate, you still pay the full price for it. Meaning you are then paying for Pass again even though you have the Lifetime Pass.
You can avoid this by just buying the indvidiual services on different Proton accounts but that can be a little bit of a pain.
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Yes thatās the problem. I donāt ProtonDrive yet (few features, no Linux app, expensive for little storage) but maybe in a couple of years itās good. I also donāt know if I want to trust them for their VPN instead of Mullvad or IVPN (āall eggs in one basketā). So I wouldnāt go for Ultimate now, but maybe in a few years I would and then be annoyed that I paid for the lifetime Pass offer.
Thatās what I like about Mullvad: one price no matter what, so you never feel like you couldāve gotten a better deal
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One upside of the multi account approach is you would probably save money as the bundles are typically more expensive then just buying each service a la carte, which is probably why they donāt have an option to do it. This is especially true with BF deals as it is much simpler to just toss a proton account and get the BF deal again the next year with a new account, if you only have 1 service attached instead of a bundle. You also have the added benefit of being able to have a different password for each service.
Sorry, I somehow missed your question earlier.
To address it, hereās what is displayed in my Proton Pass app:
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I saw the news and I am very undecided.
The current lifetime price is worth between 4.5 and 5.5 years to regroup the initial/frontloaded cost.
Sure I do think I will continue using email alias for at least 5 years. But I do not know if simplelogin will still be the best product, or properly maintained (there has been no big update recently), or if proton are still going to be a good company that respect my values and their values, nor can I know if they will bankrupt.
Ive been told a long time ago that if the investment takes 5 to 7 years to recoup, its probably not worth it.
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It takes a lot less time because inflation is a thing. Proton has been around since 2014, and theyāre currently in the best position theyāve been. Why would they go bankrupt? Theyāre also now a non-profit to make sure that they continue with their mission.
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Inflation is a thing, but the price is not guaranteed to increase all the time.
Addy.io is still 36$ like their initial cost from a few years ago. Simple login increased from 30 to 36 (probably not enough competition at 30$ to keed them in check). Bitwarden is still 10$ per year.
Those services scale with users, and not like I really cost them X$
Still undecided, I have a limited time until December 3 sooo
So iāve tought about it, and I need to think of it as an investment.
My risks are
- Risk of not using the product for the long term. I know that I will continue to uses alias in the short term of 1 year, but I am unsure when thinking in 5 years.
- Risk if the software is going to stay relevant.
- Risk that the software will stop improving and there is a more desirable product from a competitor in the future. There has been no ui improvement for the life of my subscription.
- Risk of the company proton not following on their values or going bankrupt.
- Risk of doing a more profitable investment with the money put here. Stock market double value between 5 and 8 years.
The lifetime license will repay itself between 4.5 to 5.5 years of the normal subscription price, depending on my usage (alias and password).
My return on investment is a better price compared to the subscription, that lower my total cost over the long term. Long terms here needs to be at least ten years. If I only uses the product for 5 years, then I only paid the same as the subscription price (without any rebate) thus I did not made profit out of this, while also losing access to my money during 5 years. Worst is that I could have used the rebate of black friday or whatever and paid less than the regular price, thus lowering even more the price vs this 200$ of lifetime access.
If I do use the product for 10 years, then itās 5/10=50% of the original price, 20 years is 25% of original price.
I am not sure Iām going to be using this aliasing email, or if this is still going to be relevant in 10 years, but for the password manager, as long as the software is properly maintained, it can be worth it for many years. Iāve purchase the lifetime subscription, and weāll see if itās a good investment or not.
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