Hi!
I’d like a reliable AI chat. Chatgpt is amazing, but it is really bad privacy-wise.
nanoGPT has a GPT 5.1 model, which really caught my attention.
Is there any privacy gains from using nanogpt over chatgpt?
I know I can pay for my access to nanogpt’s GPT 5.1 with something like monero… but what else does it bring to the table?
Note: I always make sure not to give my PII on any AI chats.
I’m also using luma for trivial stuff.
You can pay and use it privately and anonymously. Plus, using through NanoGPT ensures the queries are not stored by the AI model being used. And these benefits are worth it if you ask me.
when you hover above any OpenAI models, you get this message:
WARNING: OpenAI may retain and use data sent to this model for training purposes.
Does this mean we are still screwed from using nanoGPT?
privately and anonymously?
i get that the payment process can by anonymous. But private usage? Is there an options in the settings to use to achieve that?
Well, I conflated usage with access. As long as you are not going to share any PII (which you won’t), here private usage = private access. But technically its only access if you do plan to share PII (which is never a good idea).
Maybe they removed this lately. It used to give you an option to select your data not be used for retraining the model.
That is a huge consideration to take before using OpenAI models…… do you think this is a deal breaker?
I mean, you’re choosing to use generative AI LLMs. You should know and seems like you do know (what you’re getting into) that any data you input will be used by the company for whatever purpose. But as long as you don’t share any PII, I see no reason to not use it if it helps you out.
Is it a deal breaker? Depends on what deal you’re expecting it to keep up with. From a privacy POV, this is the best you can expect because AI’s inherently privacy invasive but Lumo, Apple (with their private cloud compute) are the best solutions I can think of for such a tool.
If you have the hardware you could also consider running a local model. While local models may not be able to match the full prowess of chatgpt 5.1, for more common queries it would be good for privacy and then in situations that require the raw power of nanogpt you can use that.
Otherwise if cloud is the preferred option then Lumo, Apple, or Nanogpt are likely fine as long as you dont share PII. The caveat being you just have to be on top of yourself to not let things slip to these LLMs.
so far nanogpt is great! For those who use an ai chat, what is your favorite model? Im currently testing Llama 3.3 70b
PSA: you can’t buy monero in Canada.
Crypto ATMs still have it I think.
Better to use OpenAI models through Duck.ai, they have legally binding agreements that OpenAI will not train on your data.
They don’t have 5.1 yet, but honestly it doesn’t seem that much an improvment over 5, which itself wasn’t that better from o3
Better is subjective and Duck is objectively not as good NanoGPT for all the LLM options it provides (quality wise among other things).
On what objective metric are you measuring this against? Or is it just from personal experience you’re saying this?
Honestly, try to self-host your own model. It shouldn’t be that hard and it might even be totally sufficient for your needs, who knows? 
buying litecoin/bitcoin, and using cake wallet to swap to monero works apparently! i’ll try that when i need to refill my nano-gpt balance!
Or with Cake Wallet’s new address for each transaction feature, you can simply use BTC. But yeah, either way works.
how do you get BTC if you don’t own BTC? Where did you purchase it? I usually get a little amount on kraken
Crypto ATM and Kraken is what I use. Or at local crypto meet ups where you can buy P2P with cash.
From a privacy stand point, it provides legal assurance that your data will not be used for training.
Personal experience
I agree with the duck.ai recommendation.
Depending on your use case of course. If you only need a glorified search, then it’s ample enough.