Mull (Android Browser) + Criteria Change

I’m not a fan of forks or projects. I say nay. Leave it as is. Look at how bromite died.

This is not correct.

Privacy is not the same as security, while one can argue that having to install an extra extension (ublock origin) is extra work and brave blocks out of the box (if you don’t use the guide here) I would argue privacy wise Firefox (or Mull) has the to hand privacy wise with a good set up ublock.
Now security nothing beats Chromium because of the per-site process isolation.
If it is needed? This level of security? Dunno…

And honestly starting to care less.

And then there is this:

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Yes I’m starting to set up ublock for Mull :sweat_smile:

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I have an extensive track record of monthly updates for DivestOS and updates within two days for Mull and Mulch:

Mull is now the longest standing FOSS privacy browser on Android at 2,228 days old.

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Why dont you just follow what ffupdater does with chromium based browsers?
Stick a ! next to it and say this contributes to the chromium monopoly etc.

Wish FF would get their game together and get some proper security in Android.

I agree here.
Mull is the FF browser I trust on Android, it does a lot of the leg work for you out of the box (Arkenfox on Android), while still being usable!

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My point was that Brave shipped with privacy by default while Firefox doesn’t. Since Firefox is used by dozens if not hundred of millions, the impact that Mozilla will make by just switching a few toggles on by default will be huge.

On Desktop, hardened FF is more private than Chromium.

Even though Mull has advanced fingerprint resitance, it leaks one crucial information: your device languages.
I have 4 languages on my phone and I can confidently says less than 1 million internet users have the same setup. So Mull leaking them in the http header (no way to disable) means every other FP resitance is useless. On the other hand with Brave I can choose which languages will be used.

Also, why isn’t Mullvad available on the Play Store ?

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Locking to English was directly prohibiting usage by a significant population of the world. Nor does Mull strive to be Tor Browser.
There was actually an impressively long-standing modded variant of Mull explicitly for adding RU support over on 4PDA.

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Indeed, I need to disable Brave’s language fingerprinting resistance feature, otherwise I’ll get English versions of a lot of websites, that being an oftentimes poor translation from their native/main language or even a diffetent website with a reduced feature set. That said, if I understand correctly, Chromium has a flag that sends just the user’s top language instead of all of them. Can’t Mull do something similar?

If you mean Mullvad browser, probably because its not available for Android

I’m not talking about locking to english but why is it leaking the languages set in my phone settings?
Let me choose what languages I want my content to be in instead of just fetching it from my settings.
My case might be niche but I only browse in English while I am using one language regularly for communication. The two other languages are more rare but it’s still nice to have them enable on my phone.

I meant Mull not Mullvad.

It can’t load non-English pages if it doesn’t send the supported languages header.

It probably could be reduced, but that is for upstream to address.
Fenix already implements custom language handling over desktop.

And why is Mull not in Play? Why shoot your foot off giving information to Google for a privacy browser?

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Btw my vote goes for adding Mull to the recommendation list alongside Brave.

As proposed on post #1
I mean if you can tust browser, then Mull.

Privacy wise, depending on how you set up ublock it will probably yield more privacy too.
At least as far as I can tell per checking links (Brave does not remove _utm from links for example) and ubo also tells you exactly what it blocked on the site.
For setting up I’m using this guide:

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I would argue it should be on the play store for a few reasons : user reviews (unlike Fdroid), visibility (you exclude 99% of android users) and security (Aurora Store is more secure than F-Droid). That being said it is not the subject of this post.

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