Mozilla confirmed that it was set to receive the (tax payers’)money from the US gov. My question is, how in the world a browser, or any browsers for that matter, that generates hundreds of millions a year has anything to do with tax payers’ money?
Wow! This is dark and deep. Good job, president Trump
I am not arguing about the scope of USAID. It’s the trustworthliness of Mozilla, hence the privacy aspect we can expect from them in the future, especially after the ToS mess.
One thing that’s for sure, no one has ever discovered this funding before. Did Mozilla announced any where before regarding how would they use this money for? I for one can’t find it.
Should US gov. subsidize Chromium also? Let’s be honest. I would not consider a millions company/org to be the one in need for the funding. Should they cut their chef’s salary in half, no one would have to pay for it.
The Mozilla Foundation isn’t “a browser”, it is a non-profit with a global focus. That is inline with USAIDs mission…
Mozilla Foundation, does a lot of traditional non-profit work, and has various charitable initiatives, including:
They fund fellowships, research and educational grants, to people who are working on issues of digital rights, accessibility & inclusion, tech ethics, and a healthy human centered digital world.
They have a tech fund that supports open source projects and initiatives.
The have funded a lot of educational initiatives
They support students and startups in the developing world and elsewhere
Fund various digital educational initiatives, conferences, tech hubs, and such.
And do a lot of advocacy work.
One thing the Mozilla foundation does not fund is Firefox (you seem confused on this point).
3.5 million … Good job, president Trump
Trump has cost Taxpayers over 100 million dollars on his golf outings alone…
It seems mean spirited and shitty and petty to cheerlead a pair of billionaires cutting funding to charitable programs intended to create opportunity and accessibiliy in regions that don’t enjoy the same access or opportunity to the digital world, while ignoring that that same billionaire is wasting upwards of 100 million dollars of taxpayer money on his golf habit (particularly when you consider that much of that money goes from taxpayers to Trump’s own businesses (Golf clubs and hotels), and makes his own secret service detail pay for rooms in his own hotels).
It means you agreed that even Chromium should get funding support from tax payers’ money. I disagree. The size of the project in terms of revenue should matter.
I would argue that any investment on Mozilla is a waste at best. They, along with their codebase, will come to oblivion in no time at this point.
Either due to ignorance or bias, you are making a disingenous comparison. The Mozilla Foundation doesn’t fund Firefox.
One thing that’s for sure, no one has ever discovered this funding before
Don’t mistake your own ignorance for “no one has ever discovered…” There is literally nothing to discover, both the Mozilla Foundation and the US government, have publicized their collaborations on multiple occasions, they are initiatives that they are proud of… here are some examples. And Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit, their financials are public. You are grasping for a conspiracy where there is none…
A specific example of the type of initiative USAID has funded is Mozilla foundation’s Responsible Computer Science Challenge (RCSC) and Responsible Computing Challenge (RCC) which has provided support to faculty who integrate a focus on ethics and social impact into their computer science curriculum at Universities in the US, India, Kenya, South Africa, etc,
I am not sure whether you would like to discuss
a) USAID’s aim / goal / purpose
b) USAID’s decision making process when considering application
c) The value for money of these grants (i.e. whether the applicants worth the grants)
d) Does getting USAID grants undermine grantees’ credibility
e) something else(?)
But for a)-d), I don’t really think it is something related to the theme of this forum. That’s why I said PG might not be the best location to discuss this.
The point is not USAID granting, of which has been exposed already. The point is why would Mozilla apply for such a grant/grants. It’s people money that they wasted.
Unfortunately, I’ve observed a pattern on this forum that whenever there’s even small flecks of politics, very especially American politics, people just jump in with their red herring fallacies or similar, and thus the original topic becomes derailed.
So I believe whenever those flecks are present, the team should keep a close eye on it. Otherwise, it’ll just end up like this, which, quite frankly, was poorly-moderated. And that “discussion,” personally, made me re-evaluate my view on some people.