Lunatask

I think I might have misunderstood the question? The post you had replied to was using Syncthing to sync plain old text files in a git repo. Hence linking Syncthing. The other items linked were other means of syncing notes in general between devices (that supported mobile, since that seemed to be of concern to you), in case it better fit your usecase.

If you were wondering about how to deal with git on mobile, I can’t speak from experience, but I’d assume you’d want to use Termux or one of the many git clients on android (seen plenty on F-Droid, never used any myself).

Sorry for the misunderstanding!

All fine, thanks for your help!

I actually read it like “use plain text files in a git repo and sync that whole repo over Syncthing”, not just those plain files.

This made me curious, as it would allow to have complete versioning system of all notes at your hands on all devices, without using yet another external tool/app etc. Just plain git and markdown files on every device incl. mobile.

Now that I read @SkewedZeppelin 's post again, it’s probably me who misunderstood :wink:

(I think for git repo + notes in general it would make more sense to use git push/pull instead of Syncthing. But git support for mobile/apps seems rather limited apart from Termux .)

I think previous answers are missing the point of this app (I say this respectfully). It’s contribution for privacy is not as a note taking app or as a journaling app, for which there are FOSS alternatives widely available. The main contribution is as a cross platform Task manager and Habit tracker.

I have spent countless months trying FOSS and non FOSS but E2EE apps, and ended up settling with Lunatask even if it’s not open source. If they can get audited (and it’s in their plans!) this would still be miles ahead of the competition.

For reference, I tried : Tasks.org on android + Planify or Apple reminders in desktop, synced with EteSync (this is extremely buggy, after a few weeks I couldn’t stand anymore the problems syncing contacts, calendar and tasks); Super Productivity (FOSS, optionally e2ee, second best alternative in my opinion), 2Do (not E2EE, but syncs with caldav; they deprecated their android client though), Amazing Marvin (they have the option of offline sync, and you could sync the folder with the data with syncthing or rclone crypt, but many things break), Legend (e2ee, not FOSS; has a big focus on integrations with calendar, but only accept Google Calendar and Outlook).

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Yeah, I almost got it, but the lack of open source was the one reason I didn’t.

Anytype is a good alternative which I’m using. It’s actually open code than open source. I dont know when they will actually open source this

New folks commenting here:

Just wanted to remind everyone that one should not conflate anything being open source with it being the absolute best with privacy and/or security. Only publicly released third party security audits and its reports tell you that. Just because something is open source doesn’t by default (or in and of itself) mean it is now better than any other app in the same product category. There’s more to an app being open that one should account for when one is trying to evaluate the quality of the product that respects its users. There is some nuance here that should be considered in any evaluation.

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I tried out Lunatask for a bit. Looks quite promising, but the functionality is still limited and given its almost unusable properly without premium license, I find it too expensive.

That being said, I disagree with Seconts “Notebooks” as well as “Knowledge Management”.

While is has some Notebook capability, in the first place it is really a Task Manager, Habit Tracker with Journaling and CRM. Its a really cool concept to be honest.

Maybe there could be a spoiler/hidden view for non FOSS software too, because sometimes non FOSS is a really good option.

Not open-source?

No. But this tool I still trust based on what’s know and the developer.

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software that can connect to the internet and handles privacy relevant data, should be at least be source available, otherwise their privacy claims can’t be audited independently.

I think applications without source code are only acceptable if they can work entirely offline.

I’m pretty sure an audit by a security company can still be done even if the software is closed source. There will however be a report with limited info so that I think would be the only difference.

i was going to answer that. closed source =\ cant be independeny audited.

however of course it does mean you cannot audit yourself, which for the vast majority of people is the case anyways, either due to lack of k owledge or time.

i do get (and agree) with political reasons for FOSS, but while privacy or even security can be enhanced with FOSS for widely used and maintained apps, it is not dependant on it

There are no good FOSS alternatives for Task Manager apps.

Task managers are productivity apps, which also means they have some constraints for people who are struggling with productivity. Here, small details such as the UI and friction matter a lot. An unpolished app can quickly lead someone with ADHD to drop the app and go for a very bad alternative (in terms of privacy) such as Todoist or Things 3.

It is also a type of app for which the sync must be extremely reliable, since it deals with timely notifications. Additionally, open standards such as VTODO are extremely lacking and do not support encryption well.

Looking at the speed of the commits / changelog from the projects I mentioned before, and the features missing, I’d make the arbitrary prediction that closed source E2EE task managers are 5 years away from their non encrypted competitors, and FOSS task managers are at least 15 years away. And this is assuming the non encrypted apps will not make any improvements in the meantime, which is obviously untrue.

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Maybe.

Another good alternative would be if any syncing capabilities would be outsourced a FOSS app that also uses E2EE.
This could be done by giving the closed source app no network permission but permission to access a specific folder which can also by accessed by the FOSS E2EE Sync app which handles encryption and server connection in an audible way

Agrred, the only viable option at the moment is to use an app that can work without network permission

hmmm, im not sure if that is the case, seeing how many new ai coded apps spring up and many of them even not being bad.

biggest constraint will likely always be integration with other services