LibreTube is fixed 🎇

This was my experience as well. Other people on the LibreTube issue tracker also reported the same:

I’m getting the same error even with the option “disable piped proxy” enabled.
Being active, shouldn’t this option prevent this problem?


To reference a similar scenario of a frontend being thwarted by the “upstream” service/platform, Nitter was removed as a recommended frontend after it was declared discontinued by the core developer and after almost all[1] Nitter instances became rate-limited.

Of course, LibreTube is different because, as expressed above, it should work regardless of the state of Piped instances, but disabling the Piped proxy does not seem to change anything.

Edit: For anyone interested, a core maintainer of LibreTube briefly explains why the “Disable Piped proxy” option cannot circumvent the issue of unreliable Piped instances:

Disabling the Piped proxy does exactly what it is expected to, it’s explained inthe settings btw. It no longer proxies video streams and images through Piped.

Video information such as the video stream source to load the actual video from are still fetched from Piped’s API, what’s giving the error message described above.


  1. I’m adding this qualifier because there are a couple of instances still around and functioning under constraints. ↩︎

It really matters as LibreTube doesn’t show you a captcha box like in the site. If these sites/apps could solve that Captcha. Then we could use without errors. But we are hesitant as we people don’t like to connect to Google’s domain.

16 Aug 2024, by discourse@privacyguides.org:

You seem to be the only ones not having problem. What configuration do you use ? No VPN ?

BTW, I just downloaded LibreTube again, disable Proxy option, and still had the “Sign In to …” error on 30 videos out of 32. The 2 others weren’t working for other reasons.

Yes, my mistake. Still, the developers have closed every issue concerning this issue (Got error : "sign-in to confirm you are not a robot" · Issue #6116 · libre-tube/LibreTube · GitHub) so they aren’t ready to patch it

I made a PR to remove it, if we choose to do so.

Because they can’t.

If you use a Piped instance and you can’t watch videos, then there is a problem with Piped or your specific Piped instance.

If you disable Piped proxy and get an error to sign in, then it’s because your IP is blacklisted by YouTube.

Please just leave those LibreTube developers alone.

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Please read this explanation from a core maintainer of LibreTube for the actual reason why the same error shows even when the Piped proxy is disabled.

I think you misread what you linked.

I can reproduce what I explained in the post above. I can’t watch videos on LibreTube with the Piped proxy disabled unless I change to a different VPN server because the one that I’m using 99% of the time is blacklisted by YouTube.

If a front end isn’t working as a front end and yet other front ends are working or are at least doing as much as they can to stay working, then shouldn’t the functional ones be the ones getting recommended. The developer isn’t communicating and isn’t updating quickly. We have apps and services that aren’t recommended because they don’t update quickly enough. Why should Libretube get a free pass?

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I use proton vpn. Not saying i do not experience issues. It just is not fully broken it does work from time to time. I do have proxy enabled.

The issue lies with the piped API instances not with libretube.

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NewPipe:

Tubular:

I now understand why the developer is acting the way he is.

If I was in his position where all the issues that are the fault of Piped or YouTube were always reported to me and I had to constantly repeat, “Switch to another Piped instance,” etc., then I would have probably gone completely insane.

Newpipe and freetube have been consistently updating and working around it while Libretube has just been down since this started. The whole point of the site is to recommend tools to people who are generally starting their privacy journey and having tools that aren’t communicating well or working for extended periods of time isn’t great. Invidious for example just did a purge of the instances that were having playback issues.

At the very least there should be a disclaimer put up about issues youtube is causing for front ends, but the behavior demonstrated by the libretube team is enough for me to never recommend them to anyone at this point.

If you use Proton’s streaming servers, then that’s why !

Not really. It is a soft ban because Grayjay still works by spoofing that my request comes from an iOS device. On Proton free servers though(I only use Mullvad), it is a hard block - and no one can bypass it.

See above for your screenshots.

What should we do about LibreTube ?

  • Remove it from recommendations (for now)
  • Add a warning
  • Do nothing
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What would this warning say?

I’m asking this because you created another pull request that adds a warning about all YouTube frontends, which might be more appropriate than a specific warning just for LibreTube.

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Invidious instances are now fixed. For Piped, piped.video is still working (it uses proxies under the hood) and it is recomended to use this one because there is no check wheter other instances actually disclose their source code.

This warning would say that it might not work with default instances, and that one should disable proxy and use a unbanned VPN (Proton streaming servers)

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LibreTube

Tubular

:person_shrugging:

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You aren’t using a VPN and your IP isn’t blacklisted by YouTube.

Try using a VPN or Tor.

Alright that seems enough, I guess. NewPipe and FreeTube are projects that multiple are working on so they could patch it up.

LibreTube is maintained by a single Person whom I know of being a moderator in Piped. Yeah, the situation sucks. But respect would be better than furious outrage just like that.

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NewPipe, Tubular, and FreeTube have never worked if your IP is blacklisted. They never fixed the issue.

Both Piped and Invidious are looking for workarounds to fix the issue, but it’s a whack-a-mole game. YouTube has even blacklisted the entire IP range of Hetzner.

The LibreTube hate is completely unjustified.


We just have a few people who don’t use a VPN or just use a server that hasn’t been blacklisted yet and claim that NewPipe, Tubular, and all the other solutions work, which is obvious because you shouldn’t have any issues in the first place.

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Indeed.

Are you sure about that cuz that’s insane.

Yes, YouTube has decided to put an end to freeloading. But let’s blame and shit on the people that are fighting this fight on our side…