Incognet's VPN service?

My subscription with my current provider is running out in a couple days and I was considering giving this provider’s service a try. The only thing is I’ve literally never heard anyone speak about them, good or bad. They seem to be small time, which doesn’t bother me. In fact, I’m thinking if they are somewhat unpopular by comparison to providers like Mullvad, that means their IP’s are less blocked. They check a lot of good boxes as well. You can buy over Tor, you can use Monero, they use the chad Wireguard instead of bloated OpenVPN, etc. They also don’t do affiliates, which I consider a good thing. My only concern is I’ve literally not seen one user review anywhere. I’m mostly concerned about purchasing it and finding out their servers are slow. If anybody has experience with them I’d like to here about it, thanks!

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Up to you but…VPNs are like the wild west. I would go with one of the proven privacy respecting VPNs out there. Its really easy for a company to say all the right things on their website.

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This is true, but I should state on the outset, privacy isn’t my primary reason for using a VPN. I mostly use them for their encrypted DNS and anti-malware and anti-porn filters, but also I enjoy the geo spoofing because I can get cheaper deals when I order stuff. I have, in the past, also torrented with them, but I mostly use i2p for that. They do allow you to buy over an onion link and pay with monero, they also seem to donate to many privacy projects, like Tor, i2p, Yggdrasil, etc. So they seem involved in privacy activism. I am unsure about their security audit situation, which may be a concern (if it doesn’t exist). But It’s really hard to trust any VPN service until the ultimate “audit” occurs…and by that I mean feds seizing servers to try and recover account information or IP logs, lol.

Thanks for your input Parish. I think I’ll probably just reup my Mullvad subscription. I’ve got nothing inherently against them, I just noticed some sites had Mullvad’s IPs blocked. I was wondering if a lesser known VPN may have better results. Incognet seems relatively cheap, so I may get a sub on them too, and if I do I’ll be sure to leave a review here for them. Of course I can’t review them in terms of privacy as I have no idea what they’re doing. I’m talking strictly reviewing speed, connection stability, are their IP’s blocked, etc.

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You could try Proton vpn, they have quite some deals in this moment and a lot of servers.

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I’ll check them out, thanks. I use to use their email service several years ago. It was fine, no complaints. I only left because I went a extended period of time without signing in and they must have a policy about inactive accounts because my account was closed. It should go without saying my account plan was the free tier. They didn’t close on an account I paid for.

Hey there! I understand this is an older thread, so I hope I don’t get flamed too much for necroing it, but I’d like to address some of your questions and concerns.

The service we offer is pretty barebones. We don’t offer any flashy apps or software, as we beleive you should just use the official Wireguard protocol’s client / apps on your desktop or mobile.

As far as speeds go, you’re free to try things out for 3 days as we do have a refund policy. We cap speeds for VPN customers at the advertised rates for each individual plan, but each of our VPN servers have 10Gbps connectivity and quite frankly are extremely under utilized.

The only other thing I’d like to touch base on is the affiliate thing: This is true. Affiliate programs have ruined the authenticity of what is considered a “good” brand, as many self-proclaimed bloggers, or “influencers”, podcasters, etc all shout from the rooftops the best. It’s just a coincidence that the “best” brands often seem to payout the highest commissions, right? :wink:

Anyway, we’re small. We’re not trying to compete with the big dogs. We just wanted to offer a no BS, no frills, barebones and reliable service to those who seek out that sort of thing.

If you need dozens of locations, all of which are typically shared between countless of VPN resellers and on congested networks, and some flashy app and fancy UI - We’re not for you. :slight_smile:

We’ve been focused on privacy and speech oriented services since 2020 and not stopping anytime soon.

-Curtis

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I know you can set up Wireguard on Linux via the terminal with the killswitch but it’s kill switch is not possible or available with the official app, is it? As far as I know or understand, it is not. And for a VPN, a kill switch is key!

The number of locations is significantly limiting. I don’t think its enough for most.

And from a priving POV, it is significantly more expensive comapred to what others offers. But like you said, you are brand new and small so I hope this improves.

Thanks for chiming in and sharing.

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We could always add more locations, but don’t wish to add locations that we can’t utilize our own network resources in. Each of our 8 POPs use our IP space and is on our network (AS210630). This is something that many others do not do. Many of the big VPN companies are just using Datapacket’s network and IP space, they don’t actually own or maintain these resources themselves. And I guess, really, it’s not better or worse that way, it just depends on whats important. For us, having more control over our network and knowing that we’re not using the exact same POPs and Datacenters and IP space as those we’re competing against is a good thing. For other companies, they’d rather have access to as many locations and resources as possible, so it makes sense in that regard, too. Theoretically, tomorrow I could spin up servers in new locations and replicate our stack there, but it wouldn’t be on our network or IP space so it feels a little less “ours” in that regards. It’s something I’ve considered and I’m not completely against, so I guess we’ll just see where 2025 takes us.

Our VPN service isn’t our main product and it’s more geared towards tech hobbyists, homelab operators, remote workers, etc. Users get a static IP (optional dedicated) and we have optional port forwarding available for those doing self-hosted projects at home. For general daily use outside of the above mentioned use cases, it offers a pretty decent and regularly updated ad, tracker and “BS” blocking DNS using the OISD blocklists ( https://oisd.nl/ ).

It’s certainly not perfect, and whether or not it’s a good fit for someone depends on what they want from a VPN. I still stand by that no VPN is better than Tor or I2P for privacy, so if it’s total privacy and anonymity that you seek, use the right tool. :slight_smile:

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Thanks for clarifying and sharing more info!

The three main recommended and used most by members here are Proton, IVPN, and Mullvad. They are all fantastic with some variations in feature set and functionality too somewhat. And many have use cases for all three based on how they use the internet and what they want to do.

Your VPN service doesn’t seem bad but I hope it will one day meet all the standards that others do before it can be recommended in a trustless manner. The barebones you offer, while adequate, unfortunately does not make it a great option.

This is my opinion but I suspect others will concur as well, for the most part if not for all of what I said.

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You’re absolutely correct!

And while I’ve traveled around SEA a lot in the last year, I’ve found myself using IVPN or Mullvad for their POPs that are closer to me, and switching over to our own product when I need to login to things that may be expecting a particular IP.

I’m certainly not knocking them, they do what they do very well. :slight_smile:

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Great!

Another well made and trusted VPN is always welcome so while this is not your main product as we speak, hopefully improvements are made to this in a big way. This means going in on making an app.

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Might as well fork Mullvad’s no-nonsense app with your service if and when the time comes for you to make big improvements on it. The app works really well and minimal changes in any settings is needed unless you know what you’re doing and you need select settings.

And for the love of all that’s private and secure, please ensure you focus on a Linux app too.

I quite literally don’t even know how to use Windows anymore. Last Windows OS I ran at home was XP sp3, the golden age of Windows.

Linux will always come first. We don’t even have any Windows devices to test anything on. Maybe I should get a cheap Windows laptop to get frustrated at. :slight_smile:

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Good.

Many focus on Windows and macOS first and Linux always feels like an after thought.

Anyways, I hope to hear more about your VPN in the years to come with new improvements.

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I hope you had fun in SEA…will probably the same as well. Thanks for coming to our forum!

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@IncogNET will you guys ever have an option to sign up without email address in general for all services?

Probably not. The software we use is pretty standardized in the web-hosting industry (WHMCS) and the option for this does not exist and can’t be implemented with ease. All of the other ‘required fields’ like name, address, phone, etc that the software would typically display during ordering is simply hidden and we auto-fill it with our own company details, which fulfills the requirements of the WHMCS software. If you see many hosting companies with a similar feeling or looking checkout process, they’re likely using this software.

Truthfully, we don’t have tens of thousands of dollars at minimum to begin custom development of an entire new ordering, billing and support system, as nice as it would be to have such a setup or a team of in-house devs…

With that, we don’t discriminate against what address you enter, can be any free email host, email forwarding service like anonaddy, or it can even be a fake email address… We don’t verify. But the requirement still exists more because of the software limitation aspect and because 99% of customers still want to receive an email to let them know that they have a due invoice for a production server hosting their business, or a reminder that their domain expires soon, etc. Otherwise they’re left to remember on their own or realize they may have an overdue invoice when their business goes offline or their domain name stops resolving, things that I don’t believe are acceptable for the majority of users.

So in short: We’ll probably never do away with the email requirement. Ideally in the future there would be an option to NOT provide one with a very clear and strongly worded disclaimer that you will not be notified of service renewals, pending abuse reports that may require action before suspension (on servers), etc… For now, you can add anything you want to that field that looks like a proper email, though we’d rather be able to send you notices when needed to let you know that your service is about to expire so you can pay your invoice before service disruption. :slight_smile:

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That would be awesome. Kyun is already offering such option.