GrapheneOS questions

Does anyone know if Beeper works with GrapheneOS?

Follow-up questions: is there a list of all compatible apps in GrapheneOS? Would that be the list available via F-Droid?

Lastly, is it worth it to change to GrapheneOS or it doesn’t really matter because of fingerprinting?

As far as i know there is no official list of compatible apps with GrapheneOS. However there is a banking app compatibility list.

The bigest barier for apps on GrapheneOS is the Play Integrity API

I have no experience with this Beeper app so i cannot say for certain if it works with GrapheneOS or not.

Finally:

GrapheneOS adds a significant number of security and privacy enhancements to the Pixel lineup of android devices.

Fingerprint-ability might be an issue if anonymity is a concern. However imo if you are concerned about fingerpinting, using a smartphone of any kind is a bad idea.

If you have more technical questions about GrapheneOS i would recommend checking out the GrapheneOS discussion forum

Beeper is an app that regroups all social messaging app into one: messenger, signal, rcs, linked-in, discord, telegram, twitter, ig and whatsapp. Although I don’t use all of those, it’s too convenient for me to drop, so that’s why it was my first question. If somebody has experience with beeper and GrapheneOS, please let me know.

Installed from Google Play, was able to create a new account so I suppose it works. Notifications will probably not work unless you run sandboxed Google Play Services.

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What does running sandboxed Google Play Services imply?

I’d probably need this to play games as well?

I’m not sure how exactly GrapheneOS work even if I’ve been reading on it the past 30 minutes lol.

Couldn’t you sandbox Google Play and install any apps you want?

What is the core of what GrapheneOS does? If you already have control on apps permissions, my understanding is that the only benefit is to de-Google your phone? Or is there more (I assume there is, but I don’t understand it).

Thanks for any help!

On stock android it runs with elevated privileges as a system app. You as a user have little control over what it can or can’t do. On GrapheneOS, It runs like any other normal app that you install. You select what permissions are granted to it.

Essentially, installing sandboxed google play and giving it the internet permission only will make all your apps function like they did on stock OS. You will receive notifications, be able to use the play store, play your games and so on.
The benefit is that you will have denied google unnecessary access to your location, contacts, media, etc.

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Beeper works with sandboxed google play. I am using it.

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Thanks all!

Do I understand correctly that the point of GrapheneOS is to de-Google your phone?

Is there more then that or not really?

I’m not saying that’s not already great btw, I just would like user input on what GrapheneOS really does.

I know it comes with basic apps suite as well (like vanadium).

There is more than that. Here are some statements by a community moderator of the official GrapheneOS forum that expands on this:

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‘degoogling’ isn’t the priority for the project and is a misnomer. Happening to start from a position of no default connections to Google nor having their proprietary apps installed by defauly is a Bob Ross-ian Happy Accident for those of us looking to reduce and restrict our exposure to BigG.

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yes while GrapheneOS can be used to ‘degoogle’ as it is often referred to, the actual projects aims prioritises security and privacy regardless of whether you happen to use it as it is or with the addition of our sandboxed Google Play Services.

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This is great!

Do I understand correctly that any app that runs on Stock Android would automatically work with Sandboxed Google Play Services on GrapheneOS?

Or is there compatibility issue?

For the most part, yes.

The notable exceptions which are discussed on the GrapheneOS forum are a small percentage of banking or finance apps.

See this post for more:

There actually is an unofficial and community-maintained list of banking apps compatible with GrapheneOS. […] This should be used as a general unofficial guide, and not as gospel. :slight_smile:
Banking Applications Compatibility with GrapheneOS | PrivSec - A practical approach to Privacy and Security

I also encourage you to read the official documentation on sandboxed Google Play, as it provides a lot of information that is useful for people new to GrapheneOS:

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I am aware you didnt ask about this but just want to link this for other readers too: Is Beeper a good middle ground? - #2 by ph00lt0

What?

What’s the correlation?

Just to confirm before I make the switch, live wall papers would work?

What about reddit is fun (with revanced), would that work?

And what about macrodroid, would macros still work?

Lastly, can you install any .apk on your own?

I think those would be my last questions before I jump in, thanks! :slight_smile:

I can confirm live wallpapers work in GrapheneOS. You can also install apk files manually.

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Could anyone confirm on Macrodroid and RIF + revanced?

Macrodroid seems to work

I don’t know for RIF but it should be fine, I guess.

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