GamersNexus - Piracy Is Only Illegal for You | NVIDIA Sued for Alleged Theft in AI Training

TLDR: Nvidia had someone leaking a Slack conversation on how to efficiently download all the content possible from YouTube, Netflix, Anna’s-archive etc…while as usual, selling it as the usual social cause. :slight_smile:

Kinda like what Facebook did some time ago for their training purposes.

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As far as I know, it is self-hosted. :slight_smile:
Moreover, the video is about companies stealing and not a guide on how to illegally download some pr0n. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Well, if I wanted to discuss piracy and content related things, can I? Is that allowed or forbidden here?

That’s why I am really asking.

Well, if I wanted to discuss piracy and content related things, can I? Is that allowed or forbidden here?

Well the answer is pretty straight forwards.

You may not break the law using the forum.
[…]
You may not encourage or help anyone in violation of these terms.
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You may not submit content to the forum that is illegal, offensive, or otherwise harmful to others. This includes content that is harassing, inappropriate, or abusive.
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You may not submit content to the forum that violates the law, infringes anyone’s intellectual property rights, violates anyone’s privacy, or breaches agreements you have with others.
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Source: Terms of Service - Privacy Guides Community

So yes, PG made it pretty clear that piracy is not allowed.

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Right. And I was under the impression that these rules exist because of Discourse. And that it stems from the platform because PG uses it and not PG directly.

Was I wrong in thinking so?

That just got me wondering since I’m no lawyer. Piracy is defined different all over the world. Which laws do apply? US laws I assume?

These rules apply even on many Piracy communities. You are allowed to link to homepages like annas-archive, but not to direct content like annas-archive/book123. The same applies on sites like Hacker News.

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I guess you can discuss it but can‘t include in that discussion any encouraging or helping for piracy.

On a sidenote and somewhat related, I think it‘s unbelievable and completely ununderstandable for me why this video survived so so long until now on YouTube:

(Credits for finding the channel: @fria :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:)

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Yeah idk how the YT rules works. @Imran had to censor his video about the high seas yeterday.

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Oh, Gaming on Linux tutorial?
Cool! :star_struck:

It‘s the dev of Obtainium, appareantly!

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Yeah I followed him when he did the Obtainium 101 video.

@null how to get the uncensored version?

From a consumer POV, piracy is all good if not even warranted or needed. This type of a discussion my default would read as encouragement. I also consider this thread to be in encouragement but only my first comment was taken down for some reason.

I don’t always agree with the policies PG has set in place nor how they enforce them. But such is the situation.

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Here are some questions for the thread to promote on-topic discussion:

For people who are pro-piracy, are you okay with AI being used like this?

And for people who are pro-AI, are you okay with other people pirating?

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Not sure why people took “piracy” as from a consumer POV here. :sweat_smile:
It’s nothing of the sort here, it’s mostly just a company pulling human-made content for their training data to then sell it as a product.
Nothing about going to a tracker and downloading the latest TV show.

Hence, pro-piracy -> AI used this way is a very irrelevant A → B comparison.
It’s like to say Yes, I do like Oranges hence I do have a Ford.

The opposite comparison also doesn’t make sense because those are still 2 different topics whatsoever.

Most people here that don’t like AI mostly use it to ship things faster, they don’t use it for ill intents.
Same, if you’re broke and cannot afford a game[1], you can be against the stealing from human artists. :grinning_face:


  1. or whatever other reasons ↩︎

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