EU to launch "The Wallet", forcing all citizens to provide ID when using internet

Not sure if this fits here, or if thus has been dicussed before. I have searched the forum but did not find anything.

So the EU is introducing “The Wallet”.

An app that forces all citizens of EU to identify thmeselves when using digital services.

What is your take on this? I find it very disturbing.

The video shared is 1 year old already??
Damn, not sure about all those wallets as of lately but I do guess that there are different implementations by everybody (Google, EU, Australia etc…)?


Next destination of mine! :rocket:
time to move to mars I suppose


They do have a space for discussion that could maybe be used by people with a better english than mine to explain them why this is a bad idea? :thinking:

Not sure they will care tho.

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I’m actually positively surprised. The code is open source and they apply data minimalisation.

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I don’t see anything here about forcing citizens to provide ID to use the internet. This seems like pretty tame stuff, especially in comparison to other digital ID systems. I’d much rather have this over having companies and organisations ask for photos of IDs and other important documents online.

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The only problem I and it seems many have with it is with the play integrity requirement which would basically undermine things like GrapheneOS.

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The only problem is that they’re relying on Play Intergrity, undermining if not others OSes but also and more importantly GrapheneOS. Because of that I’m really not sure it is truly an open project at it’s core

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Was going to say the same: not only does this not seem to be mandatory, but it doesn’t even seem to be just one app. They are building their own, but basically they are developing security and privacy standards that other wallet app have to be compatible, but then you just choose your own.

I would be pissed if it stopped me from logging into Netflix via VPN since I don’t live there.

Your concern really depends on how Netflix handles this should something dystopian become reality.

I think this is mostly a positive development, it will kill the existence of bad identity verification systems were you have to proof your identity with some vague facial recognition system. The whole concept is based on the idea of IRMA where you only need to share the minimum set of required data.

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But what does it mean for folks using VPNs to connect to these countries to access websites and whatnot where such verification may be necessary. How will it affect them?

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Why would that impact them? There is no requirement for website to identify you. This is only fo health, banking, government etc where you already have to identify yourself but in more shitty ways.

The only real risk in this all would be enforcing more websites to identify you but we are still far from that and there is no reason that couldnt have been done today. All the wallet does is making more secure and more private identification option.

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Yeah it’s the potential impact of more websites doing this. Not just the core EU citizen services you mentioned. That’s what I was implying. I should have been clearer.

We just know if this succeeds, it will be expanded and rolled out to almost literally everything. Matter of time and it’s really a when, not if.

This. I would annoyed if BBC iPlayer or Netflix implemented this to stop people from hopping over geofences!

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They could technically already enforce only being able to access content from your home region, but copyright law doesn’t care where you live; it cares where you are.