[EDIT: This was originally a reply in another thread. It has been moved and stripped of context in which it was made. I don’t think that was correct, but it’s not my call. I’m muting this thread and the proton one until tomorrow, to get some distance to reflect and let things settle. As it stands r…

Similarly to Forum Moderation - #56 by jonah I think this post has reached the point where everyone’s opinion has generally been shared, and we are not adding anything new to the conversation. In fact, recently this thread is veering far off-topic and into issues people have with moderation here, wh…

If anything, to me Proton seems to be a fairly disfavored solution, both broadly and within the team, so I don’t quite follow this logic, but I have definitely seen other people make the same argument as you so it comes from somewhere :man_shrugging:

Ye’old conspiracies would be my guess, the kind that originate on Reddit, the most privacy friendly platform to exist.

[image] Remove ProtonVPN we are not providing you with an SLA that demands we submit PRs within 24 hours What an odd strawman. To be clear, my issues are not so much with the time it took as the attitude of staff toward it. Like… Ignoring requests for an updated for weeks [image] Remove P…

[image] lyricism: The community was ignored because a few members of staff disagreed with the clear consensus, and rather than engaging in the discussion, the community was sidelined and finally nearly shut down. Decisions are made on merit usually not immutable consensus. The reason for this…

[image] xe3: decision based on inaccurate information without even making an effort to first understand the context or scope of the problem is in my opinion both insulting to the OP and to the people who have put a lot of effort into explaining and documenting the issue I agree with your sent…

In @dngray ’s defense, I think that thread was ridiculously confusing and people were talking over each other about completely different things constantly. I personally believe @dngray was mainly talking about the one problem described at What should we require of VPN providers on macOS? and his resp…

For me the biggest issue I had was the lack of response. I know @jonah made it very clear there is no SLA but when you have a team member in @nateb saying we will internally discuss and get back to everyone and then there is silence for 7+ weeks that doesn’t come off right. i think its reasonable …

Sorry had a 2nd thought i wanted to add… For me, from an outsiders perspective (outside of the PG team) i don’t think it looks great on the rest of the staff that the thread got so unyielding. It seems like PG has these peaks of drama that staff lets get out of hand and then big daddy @jonah saves…

[image] xe3: A seemingly knee jerk decision based on inaccurate information without even making an effort to first understand the context or scope of the problem is in my opinion both insulting to the OP and to the people who have put a lot of effort into explaining and documenting the issue M…

I think there is some fundamental misunderstanding of what the “team” does here. I was not aware of this thread before I read the whole thing and then posted in it for the first time 5 days ago, and frankly there should be no expectation of “internal discussions” behind the scenes (although I’m sorr…

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Disappointment with PG teams handling of the "Remove ProtonVPN" post

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