I was looking forward to mobile payments on grapheneos but I guess that this will have to wait as well
For people living in Spain, Germany, the Netherlands and Portugal, Openbank is also an option. They also have their own implementation to pay with your phone, without Google.
Huh, their website doesnât have any information about that as far as I can tell. https://www.openbank.de/mobile-payment
With credit cards, can one expect any privacy? Donât the underwriter (bank), issuer (partner), holder (wallet), processor (network), debitor (ex : point of sale) already collude to share/sell purchase/sales information (ex: MasterCard docs / mirror).
Your point isâŠ? By singing up for âdata analytics opt outâ I no longer have to worry about all of credit card data as handled by issuers, underwriters, debitors, and partners?
To opt-out from our anonymization of your personal information to perform data analyses
Ominously worded.
It still requires you to install Google Pay first so it doesnt work without Googleâs services as you state.
Both Curve and OpenBank (as a suggested alternatives) BOTH make use of Google Pay thus sell your personal data to the latter party. In fact, Curve has been (partly) acquired by PayPal which in its turn is partly owned by BlackRock; you know the elitsm company of which itâs CEOâs take part in the World Economic Forum. Those that basically control everything.
Donât wanna burst your bubbles out there but so far for your 'privacyâcough. Privacy is just a farce just like âDemocracyâ
the point was never about privacy. Itâs for those using GrapheneOS that want to use Contactless payments, provided the alternative and the fact that they already use Credit cards. Also especially if for the fact that all banks are abandoning their own solution in favour of those invasive ones like Google pay.
one of them would be me and I bet others.
With that said devilâs advocate I would refer to what @phnx shared which is opting out of the Credit card part and the rest is up to research.
I guess your telling this to like 80% of the responders that go about privacy stuff. I just shared some additional info about itâs non existence ![]()
Iâm having a similar experience with them. I contacted their DPO with regards of exercising some of my GDPR rights. They acknowledged that they received my request, but never replied again. They arenât replying to any of my followups either. I really wanted to use Curve and was willing to get the premium membership, but I no longer trust them.
I used Openbank in the past. They are nice as a bank, with actual customer service, a responsive DPO etc. Expensive for international or multi-currency use though. And I found their mobile payment implementation a bit buggy and unreliable so I couldnât trust it working enough that I could leave my wallet at home. But after my other two banks dropped support for mobile payments, and after Curve proving that itâs not a trustworthy company, I might have to go back to using Openbank.
Klarna is now available as another option for tap-to-pay on GrapheneOS in certain regions.
Sadly both Curve and Klarna arenât available for French users who live outside of mainland France. Wero might be our only hope.
Some quick feedback with Curve Pay here: I have tried sending multiple documents when signing up to their service (usual KYC), all legit. They refused to open an account on the basis that they âcould not verify my real identityâ.
Since they now have at least my ID card and passport, all legit, I tried to press on. Customer service turned out to be grossly incompetent with pre-written email replies unrelated to my queries. Iâve also been trying to reach the DPO, but no oneâs answering over there.
They seem to be very sketchy. Typical of a random fintech startup, I suppose. Wouldnât surprise me if they do not store their customerâs data in a secure way and if leaks happen down the line.
I think the real issue is that they were acquired: Lloyds Banking Group Acquires Curve
yeah heard more similar stories, the service seems pretty untrustworthy
well lol that is not going to make things better security wise, i am remembering the âmy voice is my passwordâ.
If you care about your privacy, donât use payment apps. Use cash when you can, and a credit card when you must. I go further and completely shun commercial âapps.â If something cannot be done or purchased through the browser on my Graphene phone, I do without it.
Is Google Play and all that needed for Klarna (And Curve), I wonder?
