Refs: https://www.venice.coe.int/files/Spyware/SWE-E.htm ( mirror ) Swedish legislation relevant to us as a VPN provider ( mirror ) Proposed new Swedish law for electronic communications ( mirror ) From: Cheaper VPN service recommendations? - #70 by ignoramous / Cheaper VPN service recommendat…

You are missing the point. Mullvad cannot be forced to do secret-logging. Like nothing in Swedish law states that they can coerce Mullvad in doing secret-logging. What you are saying is police can try and hack Mullvad, which is quite different. I also disagree on a lot of specifics you mention, bu…

Here are two other articles from Mullvad that relate to this, and I will quote two specific parts here: [image] Why it's important where your VPN provider is based Where your VPN provider is based in the world is crucial to your privacy, since the laws in different countries make it mor…

[image] anon80779245: You are missing the point. Mullvad cannot be forced to do secret-logging. Like nothing in Swedish law Where the identity of the suspect is not known, but his contacts are known, or a third party (such as a website which the suspects visits) is known, one can permit secr…

I trust Mullvad VPN completely. Been with them for 3 years now,and have no criticism about them.

Yes, it is an absolutely absurd law that never should have passed. It only applies until March 2025, though I have no doubt it will be made permanent. That being said, you are not making a good faith effort to understand what the law says or it’s implications. It does not allow Mullvad to be coerced…

[image] phnx: violate the proportionality principle which is explicitly a part of the law You bring this up for the second time, as if you’re intimately familiar with the lawfare in Sweden. Nevertheless, you seem unaware that AFA this Act is concerned, “proportionality” / “necessity” is a sta…

Proportionality assessment: Obviously we can’t know whether this is being honoured because everything they don’t want the public to know is just made a state secret on ‘national security’ grounds. That being said I still don’t think if changes that they can’t be coerced to keep logs. Moreover, I t…

[image] phnx: Proportionality assessment … Obviously we can’t know Thanks. We both agree. [image] phnx: I still don’t think … can’t be coerced to keep logs You’ve read the first ref (3p)? They think otherwise (and lay out exceptions when this can happen). Though, PG’s criteria for VPN…

[image] ignoramous: If the providers were coerced into doing so, the rest of us, “obviously can’t know” either. We still know what the law says, and it doesn’t allow for secret logging. Sweden has strong rule of law, and I think it’s a strange to dismiss that. Like it or not is has a real bea…

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