Neither does Brave?
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Isnât Brave Origin just a group policy managed Brave? I think I read that here somewhere. Everything they say they disable in Origin can be disabled with group policies, which is probably how they are doing it.
The payment option in my opinion is absolutely horrible. Seriously. If Mozilla were doing this with Firefox, weâd all be losing our minds too. Sure, one can argue that itâs entirely optional to pay for Origin, and that it can be achieved on the default Brave through group policy management. But are we seriously paywalling something that should be the default in the first place? I get that they may need the money to off-set the
revenue-generating features that otherwise support Brave as a business
but I doubt the money they gain from this is going to be less than what they need to justify its paywall.
Not to side with Braveâs choice here, but I think Braveâs work on chromium is so much more than Librewolfâs work on Firefox. I donât think we have to do an inverse whataboutism towards Librewolf to say that Brave shouldnât be paywalling this.
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Itâs a topic that pops up from time in the GOS forums about the adblocking on Vanadium.
Donât get me wrong it blocks most stuff, but it doesnât block nearly as much as Brave or a browser with uBlock does. Thatâs my personal experience at any rate.
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Brave uses the chromium engine but they do develop the browser around it.
âŚso they develop ad blocking that breaks more websites than ublock origin (which is free)?âŚand a bunch of bloatware con artist crap features?âŚthat they expect people to pay to get rid of?⌠and a bunch of weird covert trackersâŚthat are all enabled by default? I so very much do not get the Brave hype.
Never said that.
This is essentially all that Brave is vs. Chrome.
No, Brave Originâs changes can be replicated using group policies, but it works differently and depends on how you installed it.
When you install Brave Origin standalone, it removes the Web3, AI and other features at compile-time so itâs not included in the browser. When you upgrade from regular Brave to Origin, you get to pick and choose which features to enable in a more straightforward manner in a dedicated settings panel.
I think Origin is an interesting idea, not sure about how feasible itâs going to work out in practice as the price is a bit steep and paying to remove features will rub some people the wrong way. Having something like a minimum value and letting you choose either that or more could be beneficial, it would be close to a donation with perks.
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Brave Origin isnât really a product, itâs a request. âHey privacy community, interested in supporting us? Hereâs how you can do that.â
The Brave Browser user base breaks down into two groups: those who simply prefer the features, and those who genuinely prioritize privacy. The first group is generally satisfied with the browser, but the second group has had concerns over time.
Brave Origin targets this second group, users who are willing to pay for a clean, debloated experience.
I think itâs a pretty solid move.
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Filling the browser with bloatware just to ask for money to remove it later? That is actually a pretty solid move.
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While I donât think its unfair to see it that way, I do not think that was the intention here. I tend to agree with @dogeyes that this is more of a fan service to the privacy community.
The only thing that irks me about the $60 fee is only charging certain users. If you are going to say the fee is to replace ârevenue-generating features that otherwise support Brave as a businessâ then why not charge Linux users as well?
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This is what the CEO had to save about it when asked why free on Linux.
Zorin, Nobara, and Omarchy (Arch) already ship Brave as default. Arch repacks our builds.
Yes, Linux is different: open source, many distros, most wonât take our built bits (no worries), and yet we want Brave growth on Linux.
I want Linux to crush Windows too ;-).
Good enough?
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If you regularly reinstall Brave, it would be more tedious to reach out to support once you use up the 10 activations. They said theyâre working on a self-serve model though.
I get your point. $60 is still a lot of money for essentially 10 licenses. Canât believe itâs not unlimited or a much bigger number than 10.
Idk a one time 60 euro for brave never to bother my family with things they dont understand and instead just to deliver something simple that works and me not getting support questions. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ. I am getting more convinced to get this haha.
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In this economy, Iâd rather save the $/âŹ60 if the value isnât there.
Paying to disable certain browser features? Thereâs no real benefit for the person buying it, because the features are still there in the browser and havenât been removed.
It would have been better if they had gone with a donation-based model, released a different version, and removed the beta version. That would have resulted in three versions (Full Brave: Stable and NightlyâStable Brave âOriginâ), better focus, and possibly slightly better quality, with donation support.
Itâs a shame the company did that. Spending money for no reason is a terrible mistake.
Except they have been: In the standalone version of Brave Origin these features are never compiled into the browser, so not âstill there in the browserâ.
When upgrading from regular Brave browser to Brave Origin (non standalone), yes these features are still compiled into the browser and simply disabled by policy, but these are two distinct installation paths.
Edit: I meant to reply to @DanielM , I donât know why it ended up as a reply to @polyester_apricot650 instead.
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They do a bunch of fingerprinting minimisation work.
Hereâs another cool thing. Activating an Origin license on regular Brave adds this panel where suddenly Brave defaults to a Brave Origin experience, but you can selectively enable any features you might like which were removed entirely from Origin.
I can see why people would install the dedicated Origin browser if they donât want this code on their system at all, but IMO this definitely makes the purchase worth it for regular Brave users too, if you can afford it. Of course there are free ways to do this too, but a simple approach is nice.
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