I would pay like 1-3 dollars per month for Brave search since I use Brave browser with Brave search, so the ads are blocked. Not that I would ever click on a search ad, it would make me less likely to visit the site if there was an ad for it. Also paying for search would support them for their browser, which I use.
But only if I could pay in Monero, which they don’t accept.
I wonder if they make any money on search or if they are losing money.
Kagi is way too expensive for me when Brave is comparable quality or better. It really depends, sometimes Kagi is better, sometimes Brave is better. I like Brave’s UI more. Brave’s AI answer is really good as well.
Thank you, I didn’t think to look for a dedicated thread, my bad.
Note on that thread: The last post is almost one year old. Take into account that this project is still running and evolving and a lot has improved since then.
If you are really interested in getting away from centralized search engines Presearch is definitely the way to go. Just very important facts to consider:
Presearch is powered by tens of thousands nodes (you can easily participate) located all around the world, so again they don’t rely on centralized BigTech (DePIN: https://nodes.presearch.com/)
If you take time to read the whole philosophy behind, you realize that:
we’re not talking about comparing search engines anymore: were talking about paradigm change.
If you are referring to the node network idea, YaCy already did that decades ago, except that they are open-source:
If you were referring to the Web3 tokenization, where node operators get issued speculative tokens of questionable value and limited transaction usage in the market, then sure, Presearch is introducing a paradigm change by copying the Web3 movement.
I suggest reading what the essence of web3 and crypto is originally and not the corrupted usage made by unscrupulous speculators and noise made by AI generated posts.
With Duckduckgo I also quite like https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/ which provides a JavaScript free/HTML only experience for when you need or want that.
Neither is suggesting to redirect me or others to read about Web3 and crypto somewhere else. If you can reference something explicit like I did, like Web3 + crypto benefits with Presearch, maybe we can get somewhere more educational and productive as a community. Right now, Web3 and crypto are very speculative and prone to market and social abuse, so I do not see a closed-source metasearch engine offering much over YaCy, even with both of our provided URLs.
I have long been tempted to use Kagi both because their business and business model is one I want to support and because I’ve read such unanimous praise of their search engine.
I just haven’t been able to make peace with having all of my web queries tied together / tied to an account, though. Like if I want to customize their engine to suit my needs and use it to its full potential then it could potentially be very identifying. I know they have a Privacy Pass extension but according to their documentation it has some limitations.
How have you all navigated the balance between privacy and functionality here? Do you use Privacy Pass?
There seems to be a lot of praise for Kagi. The biggest gap in my experience compared to Google with other free engines is the amount of relevant community created (forums, mainly) content Google finds and others don’t. How well does Kagi handle that?
I don’t quite think it’s fair I was given a notice and had my comment deleted when I mentioned the search engine I’m a co-founder of, but didn’t link to it directly (linked to an independent entity talking about it), but a lot of people are talking about Kagi, here.
Neither are recommended, so technically neither should be allowed to be discussed? Or is it because I’m a co-founder it’s considered impossible for me to be objective?
In any case, it’s kind of a shame I can’t get to explain some differences and nuances about those, for people to make informed decisions, so I’ll just say Kagi doesn’t only use Google; they use multiple engines, and generally outperform any non-paid search engine, in terms of relevance, because they use more than one search provider.
For most people (who don’t get into long-tail, more “technical” searches), this difference is often something they don’t care about or even notice, so they’re mostly paying to “protest” Big Tech and try to minimize the surveillance capitalism.
I hope that makes sense and doesn’t break any rules.
we’re not talking about comparing search engines anymore: were talking about paradigm change.