The discussion surrounding Remove ProtonVPN - #332 by ph00lt0 is so random and all over the place, that I am not even going to attempt to sort it out and try to move some posts over here. See: [image] Remove ProtonVPN hammer_and_wrenchTool Suggestions They may…

[image] Encounter5729: Proton killswitches fall short of the best. On one particular platform which is tightly controlled by the vendor which a lot of users may not even own. There are plenty of people who own zero Apple devices. Leaks are not unknown on other platforms, eg Android I think w…

[image] dngray: Leaks are not unknown on other platforms, eg Android I think we really should be educating on that they’re not truly reliable in general when done on the client device. That’s the topic of another thread [image] dngray: On one particular platform which is tightly control…

[image] Encounter5729: not nitpicking one phrase I said and arguing about it. Natural drawback when corresponding over text. We can only understand what was said and in the context. Not what one may perhaps be getting at or the idea at large immediately. This is just a general comment. Not t…

What should you require of VPN providers on macOS? My answer: The same minimum standard that you should apply to all other OSs. What should the kill switch requirement be? My answer: A security feature that, so long as it is activated, blocks external network traffic when such traffic would revea…

[image] Overall-Bet3743: What these changes mean What they really mean is we need to prioritize #1863 as well as investigate some hardware solutions like those provided by GL.inet. The reality is there are many reasons for leaks see: Your VPN Kill Switch Won't Stop All Leaks they’re all pret…

[image] Overall-Bet3743: “This has nothing to do with ProtonVPN” - really? I can only tell you what is true from our perspective. If we made any change to accommodate a specific provider, the change was made specifically to accommodate IVPN on iOS, which people seemed to feel was reasonable. …

[image] jonah: agree, but I’m not sure I know what you’re proposing [image] jonah: If Apple does not provide a way to do this then it seems like our answer will be no imo, VPN clients must be required to use macOS provided (pf) or iOS/macOS assisted (includeAllNetworks / enforceRoutes)…

This is an incredibly long thread, could someone please explain to a non technical Mac user , what the issue is with vpn’s on Mac OS and which if any are recommended. I have tor browser on all my machines so it’s more best options for use with say brave browser. I have a proton account, can use Win…

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jonah (Jonah Aragon) March 11, 2026, 1:27pm 62

As noted here and in the PR, this change has nothing to do with Proton VPN in the first place, so your conclusion does not really follow the facts of the matter. Otherwise, I see your perspective on the rest of your post.

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